4" 1950 Military 44 Special: What's it worth?

This has been a very enjoyable transaction. The Gila Bender and I both got what we wanted, and he has been a great person to do business with. This was a really neat gun that I felt honored to own for the couple of years I had it. I was very lucky to be in the right place at the right time when the guy walked into the shop with this handgun. There are a couple of Smith & Wesson collectors in town who I always need to beat to the punch when stuff like this comes up for sale. Sometimes I get there first; sometimes they get there first. I was the lucky guy this time.
 
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And the letter reads:

"... your Smith & Wesson .44 Military Model of 1950 Pre-Model 21, Five Screw Variation, caliber .44 S&W Special...serial number S142499 was shipped on March 7, 1955, and delivered to Williams Gun Sight Co., Davidson, MI."

So, I believe this .44 went first to a distributor, then to a retailer in Alaska, then fifty-five years later to Arizona.
 
For what it is worth, I once owned Pre-21 5" with serial number S148491, which shipped to the same destination on 3/18/55.
 
And the letter reads:

"... your Smith & Wesson .44 Military Model of 1950 Pre-Model 21, Five Screw Variation, caliber .44 S&W Special...serial number S142499 was shipped on March 7, 1955, and delivered to Williams Gun Sight Co., Davidson, MI."

So, I believe this .44 went first to a distributor, then to a retailer in Alaska, then fifty-five years later to Arizona.

Tom,
I've got one with a SN within 5 digits of yours, but mine has been reblued so I get to shoot it :-).
 
This has been an excellent thread to read!

I'm from the "won't own a gun I can't shoot" camp, but I'm slowly starting to see the merits of the other side.

Also making it interesting to me is the fact I grew up and learned to shoot in SE Alaska, in a logging camp between Sitka and Juneau.

My thanks to both Whelenshooter and The Gila Bender for sharing the story.
 
There is a certain satisfaction of knowing that you can shoot it if you choose, rather or not you do. It is much easier to shoot or not when you have multiple guns of the same caliber. I not only collect Smith's , but also others. I may fire a few rounds out of a raritity when I am with like minded collectors who I know would have an enjoyable time, but from experience, you cannot believe how hard and expensive it can be to replace a "broken" part. As has been said above, this has been an interesting thread and I'm glad the two parties involved are pleased with the outcome. Joe.
 
Geeee. What about THIS one?...

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With regard to values, I can add this... my understanding is that there were only two nickle Pre-21's made. The other has been refinished. The refinished gun sold recently I believe. If what I heard was true, the new owner of the refinished gun paid more than what I did for this original example 6 years ago....

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Drew
 
Drew, I say first spray some black paint on the sights so's you can see'm in the bright sunshine, then get a cheap holster{does't even afta kinda fit} , use the speed loaders that scratch the finish on the matching wood grips, load up some home-brewed extra hot super -duper hand loads{ I recommend just filling the case to the brim with bullseye and then tamp a 300 grain hardcast bullet on top} and then tie that pretty revolver to an old tire and pull the trigger with a long lanyard. Oh , I forgot ,you had better drink heavy before going shooting to dull the ultimate pain as much as possible. Joe.
 
So, Sebago, did you contact Jim Rodgers and buy his nickel box? :)

Last December I was happily hiking a gun show when I was mugged at the end of the first aisle. It was GF, and he wanted to talk. As we were politely "BSing", along came a guy with a 4" blue gun. It was a 44 Military. He wanted $900, so I offered him $800, as tradition and morality in gun buying demanded. He said $850 and I was pealing $100 bills. It all shocked GF who had a little trouble believing I'd do it that quickly. Another rule of gun buying is to never hesitate when you see a deal.

Then I decided I needed a box for my gun. So I stopped at a friends table and asked him. He had one, but it was for a nickel 4" M1950. Not a problem for me, he said he'd bring it to the next show in a few weeks. I brought my agreed upon trade, as did he. Then a month later he gave me a phone call, telling me to bring the nickel box back, he had blue box for me. So we traded boxes. And Sebago Son was sent the contact information so he could try to pry it loose.

So now I've got a "shooter" in a correct box. And I'm a happy camper, more or less.

From reading Bettis's posts over the years, I could tell he had some common sense. His early post to this thread confirms it.

But I have a slightly different opinion on shooting collectors guns. What I've seen over the years is shooting a few rounds, or even a few cylinders full doesn't hurt the gun or the condition. Of course you use modest loads. Then you clean it, just like you were taught, until it looks like it did before you fired it. It takes a pretty good expert to tell if its been fired or not. If you want to be real sneaky (something I excel at) you look at your cylinder to see where the factory fired every other chamber. Then you load them, not the virginal ones. :) Then even a quick and dirty cleaning won't disclose a second round of firing.

Finding these guns is so rare you probably can't be too choosy. When you see one, you jump. If you hesitate, all is lost. Just ask GF.
 
Shoot ME but, I carry my (4" 1950 Sn S143xxx) every day and shoot it at least once a week... isn't that what it was meant for? My alternate carry guns (woods walking) are one of 2 1950 Targets or a .38/44 HD 5". I'm just not into safe queens unless bought strictly for an investment (more realistically protection against the falling dollar).
 
Shoot ME but, I carry my (4" 1950 Sn S143xxx) every day and shoot it at least once a week... isn't that what it was meant for? My alternate carry guns (woods walking) are one of 2 1950 Targets or a .38/44 HD 5". I'm just not into safe queens unless bought strictly for an investment (more realistically protection against the falling dollar).

Good for you!

Dave
 
This one is a bit newer than yours but ANIB. It shipped in May of 1955 and S143825, close to yours, also shipped in May of 1955. I carry it on the books at $4,700. Don't know if it's worth that but that would be the minimum for me to even listen to a prospective buyer.

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Bob

Has anyone else wondered why the tools shown with this non-target gun include a SAT?
 
The SAT tool shown with the pristine 1950 is so you can bugger up the sideplate screws;)

Seriously that is a very nice S&W thanks for posting the pictures
 
Wish I could afford one like that to shoot. That might be a little too rich for my blood..........
 
He did have to mention that "deteriorating eyesight" thing... :rolleyes:

Simple. Just drill & tap it for a scope...:eek:

I'd prefer your liver, but will take a kidney and a left elbow in trade.

I'm going to confess I don't really know any of these guys in real life, but just going by posts I would give that liver thing a lot of thought....:D
 
I am so jealous! I've been working to put together a collection of 'Models of 1950' and I'm short two: The 'Heavy Duty' (pre-Model 20) and the .44 Military (Pre-Model 21)! Here in Southern Oregon they're pretty rare. The prices for these two have gone up significantly... but the ones on this thread are marvelous! Now if I can get the drool out of my keyboard.... ML
 
Mike,
Be patient and keep your eyes and ears open. Chances are you will find a nice 1950 Heavy Duty before a 1950 .44 Military. That said, once in a while a 1950 HD or .44 will pop up here or you'll get a heads-up from a forum member or another collector who knows that you are looking. Make your intentions known and be ready when the opportunity arises. Do you have a 1950 .38/44 Outdoorsman and or a 1950 Model .44 Target in your collection?

This is the 1950 Model .44 Military acquired from whelenshooter in 2010. The letter states, "... your Smith & Wesson .44 Military Model of 1950 Pre-Model 21, Five Screw Variation, caliber .44 S&W Special...serial number S142499 was shipped on March 7, 1955, and delivered to Williams Gun Sight Co., Davidson, MI."

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