.429 Desert Eagle

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I think my little sister is nuts, She bought herself a new handgun for her birthday. She bought a Desert Eagle .429. Up until now her biggest handgun was a 9MM. The girl weights about 120 after a big meal, soaking wet! I asked he why and she said "I wanted it". Has yet to buy any ammo for it as the shop where she bought had none. Did a quick search while talking to her and saw amm for $2.00-$2.50 a round. She is nuts!!
 
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The caliber .429 Desert Eagle is the .50 Desert Eagle necked down to .44 caliber. I do not find any reference to factory ammunition, it would appear to be a strictly hand-loading proposition! This would explain why no one has ammunition for it! :(:( Does she intend to load for it? Here is an article on the .429 DE: Magnum Research .429 Desert Eagle (DE) - Guns and Ammo

Silly me:D I searched ammunition as .429 "Desert Eagle" and found nothing! Doing a second search for .429 DE found Glacier Ridge ammunition. Didn't find anyone with it in-stock either though!
 
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The caliber .429 Desert Eagle is the .50 Desert Eagle necked down to .44 caliber. I do not find any reference to factory ammunition, it would appear to be a strictly hand-loading proposition! This would explain why no one has ammunition for it! :(:( Does she intend to load for it? Here is an article on the .429 DE: Magnum Research .429 Desert Eagle (DE) - Guns and Ammo

She does not reload and neither does her husband. Everywhere I look for ammo it is listed as out of stock.

I will probably end up reloading for her.
 
It's an interesting round. If I were a millionaire I'd wildcat a .460 Rowland down to .429 just for fun. Wouldn't be quite the stomper than a .429DE is, but I wouldn't need a gas-operated action or a gun the size of a Deagle either.
 
I had a DE in 50 AE for about 22 years. It had an interesting recoil! 300's were pretty normal but 325's and especially 350's were very strange. The gun torqued in your hand, trying to unscrew itself from your grip! Not really harsh, just a "Let me go!" kind of feel. The heavier the bullet the more accurate! Hawk Bullets were suppose to make a 365 but I never tried any.

When I bought the gun at Christmas 1991, I bought 300-400 Speer 325 bullets, and 700 rounds of factory ammo. I honestly thought it would be a passing fad. I wanted to keep 500 to sell with the gun when they became obsolete. I sold the gun to Cabela's for about $400 more than it cost (didn't keep up with CD interest rates!) then I still had 550 rounds of factory and 200 reloads, A guy with a 50AE, 10" upper for his 44mag DE bought the factory at a little over double what I had in it! So I made $600 there and over all made $1000 on the package!

Unless I stumble onto a 1886 in 50-110, I'm sticking to 45-70! I'm done with 50 Caliber!

Ivan
 
She wanted it. It was her (or her husband's) money. So it wasn't all that smart. You should be a good brother, load some up for her and presumably after one or two magazines full she will put it in the safe and let it rest comfortably. You never know, she might like it. Chill out dude.
 
Obviously, no one buying a Desert Eagle or any other nice high quality handgun is nuts. :) The choice of caliber however is another matter. In my opinion, .429DE was dead in the water right from the get-go in 2018. It may be sensible, but being sensible is not the point of the Desert Eagle. As for the potentially better accuracy: That's a solution for an inexistent problem. .50AE is by no means an inaccurate caliber. It's plenty accurate for distances and purposes relevant for heavyweight big bore handguns.

Good thing is: Your sister can turn her new gun into a proper .50AE Desert Eagle with a simple barrel swap (the main advantage of .429DE over .44Mag in the DE), and the old barrel is not a waste of money either. Could become a collector's item at some point.
 
While I have had my 50AE Desert Eagle for about 30 years now, I can not recall the last time I fired it. I do have an AR style carbine chmbered for the same cartridge

I had a 6" 44 Magnum barrel for it, but a buddy of mine just had to have it many years ago so I sold it. Truthfully I have never been a fan of the 44 Magnum

The Desert Eagle that I do shoot is chambered in 41 Magnum.

About 25 years ago the company with the 4 letters was closing them out. They offered a kit that contained the traditional 6" barrel and the optional 10" barrel. This all came in a large Magnum Research case.

You even had your choice of the steel framed version of the lightweight alloy framed variant. At that point in my life I could not spend the money for both, so I purchased the steel version.

The pistol is shown in this 41 Magnum group photo taken more than a decade ago. It is second from the bottom on the left side. The pistol is wearing it's 10" barrel with the 6" just above it

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429 Desert Eagle SAAMI Diagram

Just so everyone has an idea of the cartridge, attached are copies of the SAAMI diagrams for the 429 Desert Eagle.
One is just the cartridge. The other shows the cartridge and chamber dimensions.

Ammo should be no problem. Just reform 50 AE brass. Done!

PS: AJ, my crystal ball tells me there is a set of 429 Desert Eagle reloading dies in your future....
(Maybe your sister is already planning your next Christmas stocking stuffer?) ;)
 

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I had a marlin 45-70 for a short time and took it on a hog hunting trip south of perry fl and when we all stopped for lunch one of the men in the group asked if he could shot my 45-70 . The loads were 350 fn at 2050 fps and it took one shot for him to say thats enough so his son-in-law had to try it and was just as quick to hand it back . My buddys 5-7 trim lean looking wife then asked to try it . There was on dead tree still standing in a clear cut about 75 yards off and she fired levered fired 4 times rather quickly and the tree feel to the ground . The men in the crowd were shocked she handled it so well . She was already shooting savage 99 in 308 but she ended up buying that 45-70 from me .

I guess I learned a long time ago not to doubt what a women can handle even when they look fit and shapely . You might find your "little " sister both mentally and physically tougher than your think .
 
It's an interesting round. If I were a millionaire I'd wildcat a .460 Rowland down to .429 just for fun. Wouldn't be quite the stomper than a .429DE is, but I wouldn't need a gas-operated action or a gun the size of a Deagle either.

Interesting comparison. I've owned several DEs over the last 40 years and always ended up selling them after the new wore off. They're just too huge, too heavy, and too clunky to be truly practical for anything other than bragging rights, though as a younger man I certainly did go to the trouble to carry one "concealed" under a pair of athletic shorts and tank top!

It was the discovery of the .460 Rowland that finally pulled me away from all things Desert Eagle. The Rowland can be fired from a 38 ounce 1911 platform (versus 72 oz for DE), and easily matches actual factory ammo numbers between the two.
IMI isn't made up of stupid people, they know the only way to keep consumer interest in a massively huge 72 ounce pistol is to chamber it in a uniquely huge cartridge that people perceive to be so much better it's worth carrying a gigantic handgun to obtain. Fact is, anything above one Kilojoule of kinetic energy is ample to bring down every animal on the North American continent - all numbers above that are fine, but not necessary. The .460 Rowland goes 1.3-1.4 Kilojoules of energy per shot, putting right in the wheelhouse of the .44 magnum, though with almost twice as many shots, much faster reloads, and far less abusive recoil!

A 1911 chambered in .460R has far less recoil than either a .44 magnum revolver or Desert Eagle .44 magnum, and is ergonomically superior to both.
A Glock .460R with long slide weighs in at 34 ounces empty with a 6.61" barrel and steel comp, plus 6" slide that regulates the recoil of the round down to almost nothing.
 
Obviously, no one buying a Desert Eagle or any other nice high quality handgun is nuts. :) The choice of caliber however is another matter. In my opinion, .429DE was dead in the water right from the get-go in 2018. It may be sensible, but being sensible is not the point of the Desert Eagle. As for the potentially better accuracy: That's a solution for an inexistent problem. .50AE is by no means an inaccurate caliber. It's plenty accurate for distances and purposes relevant for heavyweight big bore handguns.

Good thing is: Your sister can turn her new gun into a proper .50AE Desert Eagle with a simple barrel swap (the main advantage of .429DE over .44Mag in the DE), and the old barrel is not a waste of money either. Could become a collector's item at some point.

This is interesting to me. I assume the cartridges are similar in physical size enough that nothing else needs to be done? That's pretty cool. I don't know how simple a "simple barrel swap" is, but I'm sure it is for anyone other than me. Can I take it for granted there's a tad more power in the .50AE? I have no use for one, but these are interesting guns for sure.
 
This is interesting to me. I assume the cartridges are similar in physical size enough that nothing else needs to be done? That's pretty cool. I don't know how simple a "simple barrel swap" is, but I'm sure it is for anyone other than me. Can I take it for granted there's a tad more power in the .50AE? I have no use for one, but these are interesting guns for sure.


jeffrefrig,

Read the article noted in post #3, it will answer your questions. It is sort of like a M1911, it can be made into several different caliber rather easily.

AJ
 
I assume the cartridges are similar in physical size enough that nothing else needs to be done?

It's just a barrel swap for .429DE and .50AE, everything else is the same for both cartridges.

I don't know how simple a "simple barrel swap" is, but I'm sure it is for anyone other than me.
Swapping the barrel on a Desert Eagle takes 10 seconds if you know how to do it. Bolt takes a couple of minutes.

Can I take it for granted there's a tad more power in the .50AE?
Yes, about 25% more energy.
 
Interesting comparison. I've owned several DEs over the last 40 years and always ended up selling them after the new wore off. They're just too huge, too heavy, and too clunky to be truly practical for anything other than bragging rights, though as a younger man I certainly did go to the trouble to carry one "concealed" under a pair of athletic shorts and tank top!

It was the discovery of the .460 Rowland that finally pulled me away from all things Desert Eagle. The Rowland can be fired from a 38 ounce 1911 platform (versus 72 oz for DE), and easily matches actual factory ammo numbers between the two.
IMI isn't made up of stupid people, they know the only way to keep consumer interest in a massively huge 72 ounce pistol is to chamber it in a uniquely huge cartridge that people perceive to be so much better it's worth carrying a gigantic handgun to obtain. Fact is, anything above one Kilojoule of kinetic energy is ample to bring down every animal on the North American continent - all numbers above that are fine, but not necessary. The .460 Rowland goes 1.3-1.4 Kilojoules of energy per shot, putting right in the wheelhouse of the .44 magnum, though with almost twice as many shots, much faster reloads, and far less abusive recoil!

A 1911 chambered in .460R has far less recoil than either a .44 magnum revolver or Desert Eagle .44 magnum, and is ergonomically superior to both.
A Glock .460R with long slide weighs in at 34 ounces empty with a 6.61" barrel and steel comp, plus 6" slide that regulates the recoil of the round down to almost nothing.

It's vanity to want a .429 Rowland. .452 bullets are plenty good anymore, it's not 1983 when .429 might have had a better selection. Anything above 240gr would probably seat too far back into the case. Like the .429DE, it's more of a, "Lookit this cool gun I got!"
 

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