44 Associates' .44 Special Data?

[DGNY]

In a recent thread in S&W 1961 to 1980, "Which first, egg or hen...?", ST Bryson was good enough to post an image of the cover of a 44 ASSOCIATES' .44 Special data report atop an image of a George Rice article, "'Magnumizing' the .44" [Special].

Is is possible that the contents could be excerpted, posted at length or made available in PDF for those who would like to see the data or article?

Many of us have wondered for years re this data as historic information and the article looks promising as well.

Thanks to anyone, including ST Bryson, who might have and be willing to share the content. I understand and respect that there may be reasons that would cause one to decline to disseminate the info.

[Posted here, as it seems to go beyond Reloading as a topic.]

Regards,

Dyson

 

[DGNY]

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[DGNY]

Anyone have a way of responding with info?

Many thanks,

Dyson

 

[Keith Brown]

DGNY, I think the time period your talking about would be more 1930-40. If I recall correctly it was a small group with EK somewhat as the center. I believe I read that they also had a small newsletter that circulated among the group. I think this is correct but hopefully if it's not someone will jump in to set it straight.

Keith

 

[DGNY]

Thanks. I hope others who have shareable access to the information in question will join this discussion.

My comment re the timing is related to the current [and seemingly ageless] popularity of the .44 Special cartridge. Also to the possible relevance of the findings of the 44 Associates to modern discussions. Conversely, an airing of the old findings might set to rest the hope that they had discovered something of use to us.

Regards,

Dyson

 

[DGNY]

I have sent an email to Steve, per his kind offer, and yet hope others may join in a discussion here, as well.

Regards,

Dyson

 

[M29since14]

There doesn't seem to be much interest in posting here on the topic of the .44 Associates.

Mr. Bryson - I may have missed your original post. It sounds like someone offended you. If that's the case, I'm sorry to hear that, but if you have anything on the "44 Associates" and you are reluctant to post it here, I would be interested privately. (EM address in my profile.)

I imagine much of the loading data is dated, but I have always been more interested in the background info, anyway.

 

[Homie]

I had suggested the same thing to a "famous" handgunner who has a copy about ten years ago, but he didn't seem have much interest.

E-mail sent to Steve.

Good shooting!

 

[feralmerril]

I read of this many years ago, like over 40. I belive it was a group seems like kentucky, that exchanged loads, shooting info and testing many combo loads way back. I read it 40 years ago, and the article was about the group way before that!

 

[BUFF]

Skelton described them as a group of handloaders and enthusiasts that exchanged loading data and jokes about .357 Magnum shooters.

 

[DGNY]

Perhaps at long last, some of the findings, opinions and ruminations of the 44 Associates will be in the light of day! For example - what sorts of lead bullets did they prefer? Did they ever reach the storied 1200 fps velocity without fragmenting their revolvers?

Hope so!

Cheers,

Dyson

 

[j38]

Steve,

If you decide not to post something here, I would also like to be copied at the address in my profile.

Do you know if any of the info is contained in the SWCA Journals? I just received all 4 volumes and have yet to make much of a dent in reading them.

Best Regards,

Jerry

 

[keithherrington]

Steve,
I'm interested as well. I just got my 44 Special project back from Bowen and will start loading in earnest for it soon. Sounds like this source will help me out. Thanks.
Keith

 

[Sugar River]

I'd be interested as well.
Thanks in advance.

Pete

 

[GLL]

I have asked on several occasions if anyone had the data and newsletters available from the old .44 Associates ! To date nobody has come forward with any of the printed material ! I would doubt if it is copyrighted but may be wrong since I have never been able to see any issues.

If people have material I would be willing to scan, clean up prints, and make them available.

Jerry

 

[Muley Gil]

I'd like to have a copy.

 

[Bat Guano]

Seems like there would be some interest in a run of these, at a cost that would defray the expenses. I wonder what some outfit like Kinko's would want to print some off?

Some disclaimer as to liability and a note to the effect that it was being published as a historical reference would seem to take care of the fringe element. A lot of it would be very similar to Keith's writings from the same time period, and those are still in circulation.

I'd like one in my archives...

 

[DGNY]

Many thanks to stbryson, GLL and others who have expressed interest in sharing this knowledge.

Once again, this Forum demonstrates its collaborative powers.

Regards,

Dyson

 

[GLL]

Dyson:

I unfortunately have nothing to share but would love to help put as much of the old info together as possible !

I am retired, love the .44 Special, and have a very nice scanner !

Jerry

 

[DGNY]

There seems to be quite a bit of interest in the 44 Associates' data. It will be a real breakthrough to have it to read and digest.

Let's hope Steve or someone with a copy can make it happen. And that it can be set forth here, or in copies. We will all be greatly in his/their debt.

Regards,

Dyson