44 Magnum reloading dies.

[andyo5]

I am just getting into reloading for 44 Magnum (I have a Dillon 550B) and need to buy a set of dies. I'd like to know whether crimping die that comes with the Dillon 44 caliber carbide pistol die set is able to provide both a taper crimp and a roll crimp. Many of Dillon's pistol crimping dies cannot do a roll crimp, and I ended up having to buy a Lee crimping die for revolver die sets.
I'd call Dillon, but this is a weekend and they are not open now.
Thanks.

 

[Imissedagain]

We only roll crimp on cases like the 44 Magnum, 38/357, 45 Colt and the Super Magnums.
You could apply a very very small roll crimp, just touching the edge of the mouth.... just a bit.
Taper crimping is primarily for removing the flare but 45/1911 Bullseye shooter have found satisfying results with various size taper crimp firmness.
Proper neck tension is paramount with all calibers regardless of crimp.


Stay safe
Have fun

 

[WR Moore]

I'd check with Dillon. I'd kinda assume that they'd be roll crimp dies for revolver cartridges, but it doesn't hurt to ask. Roll crimp and taper crimp dies are machined differently internally. You can set a roll crimp die to eliminate flare, but it won't taper crimp. If you do need a roll crimp die, either Lyman or RCBS will sell you a separate seating/roll crimp die. You can also check with either MIdway or Grafs for one. I bought taper crimp dies for use with plated bullets.

 

[DWalt]

Most .44 Mag/.44 Special seating dies provide a roll crimp. I have two sets (Lyman and RCBS), both have roll crimp.

 

[oysterer]

We only roll crimp when there is a cannelure on the bullet or is a flush seated wad cutter, meaning there is space for the roll crimp to bite into. If we shoot coated smooth bullets e.g. in 38, we use a 9mm TC die and apply a bit of taper crimp to not damage the bullet wall that engages the rifling. And that's the way it is.

 

[Marshal Kane]

IME, most revolver reloading dies come with a roll crimp as many revolver bullets have a crimp groove. No crimp die that I know of will both roll and/or taper crimp. Having said that, I recently purchased a taper crimp die for .38 Special wadcutter reloading but that was a separate die from the roll crimp die that originally came with the die set. Hope that answers your question.

 

[Ivan the Butcher]

When you call Dillon to order the dies they can tell you all the options you have! My Dillon 45 ACP dies have a taper crimp, my Dillon 45 Long Colt dies have a roll crimp, but they may offer both. When I load my 44 Mag super killer loads (They make a Super Blackhawk cringe!) I start with a roll crimp, then use a taper crimp to drive that very deep!

In this day and age, for a price you can get anything you want!

Ivan

 

[fredj338]

I am just getting into reloading for 44 Magnum (I have a Dillon 550B) and need to buy a set of dies. I'd like to know whether crimping die that comes with the Dillon 44 caliber carbide pistol die set is able to provide both a taper crimp and a roll crimp. Many of Dillon's pistol crimping dies cannot do a roll crimp, and I ended up having to buy a Lee crimping die for revolver die sets.
I'd call Dillon, but this is a weekend and they are not open now.
Thanks.

You cant really get both a taper & roll crimp , just doesnt work thst way. Taper crimp with heavy recoil doesnt work well anyway. All dillon revo calibers should roll crimp. I have dillon dies in all the magnum calibers, they do fine.

 

[Nightowl]

I have not cared for the new Dillon dies that got. The "roll" crimp was more of a "profile" crimp. Also, the sizing die is spring loaded and makes a loud snapping sound on every stroke. Drove me crazy, so I bought a Redding sizing die. I think the profile crimp is ugly and have had a hard time finding a true roll crimp any more.

 

[mikld]

My all time favorite cartridge for reloading is the 44 Magnum. Of the three different die sets (no Dillon) I have, all are roll crimp. Since I started with the 44 Magnum in '87 I have used three different crimping types, stock roll crimp, Redding Proifile crimp (very, very good too/crimp) and for several hundred rounds the Lee Collet Crimp (I tried a Lee FCD, but only on 12 rounds. it now resides in a landfill somewhere in So. Oregon). I have gotten even, repeatable crimps with my collet crimp die and now I use it almost exclusively on my 44 ammo...

 

[andyo5]

I have purchased the Dillon forming/depriming and seating die, plus a Lee Carbide crimping die. I have used the Lee crimping dies for .357 and 45 Colt, with good results. They can be adjusted to deliver both taper and roll crimps. I mark the two positions with magic marker so I can go back and forth as needed.
I read some feedback last night on the Dillon 'accu-crimp' die, and decided to go with the Lee instead.

 

[Univibe]

I strongly recommend going with a four die set for handgun cartridges.

1. Sizer/ decapper die.
2. Expand / flare die.
3. Bullet seating die
4. Roll crimp die.

3 and 4 are duplicates of the same die. 3 is adjusted so the roll crimper built in does not contact the case, and only seats the bullet. 4 will have no seater plug, and will be adjusted to do the roll crimp.


This is one more step, but it assures consistent seating and crimping.

I do it on all handgun cartridges. Works for me.

 

[Engineer1911]

A 44 SPECIAL die set will reload 44 Spl and 44 Mag brass with the correct set-up. 44 MAGNUM dies only reload 44 mag brass because the crimp die cannot crimp shorter brass.

 

[DWalt]

A 44 SPECIAL die set will reload 44 Spl and 44 Mag brass with the correct set-up. 44 MAGNUM dies only reload 44 mag brass because the crimp die cannot crimp shorter brass.

My RCBS and Lyman .44 die sets are both marked .44 SPL & .44 Magnum, and will handle crimping both case lengths OK. I load more .44 Spl than .44 Mag.

 

[BigBill]

With a second time reloading after a 25 year break I use all Lee dies in my rockchucker and Lee presses.
I ran 6 k of 308 win with the Lee RGB dies. ($9).