.45 acp reloading ?

[growr]

I was given about 2000 rounds of once fired brass to reload for a dear friend of mine....doesn't appear to have been fired in a Glock. (he doesn't own a Glock). Yet it is behaving like it. I have reloaded 45 on my 550 B with Dillon dies for over 15 years with NO problems until now......

I cannot get the sizing die low enough to size the brass so that it will drop into my Dillon case gauge or the barrel of his 1911 or any of my own 1911's. I am at the lowest the die will go.

The casings rim is still setting above the gauge about the thickness of the cartridge rim itself.

The Redding GRX might be my salvation on this as I don't want to discard 2000 or so casings....

Your thoughts fellow reloaders?

Randy

 

[GBertolet]

I don't know if Redding makes a GRX die for the 45 ACP. I have one for the 40. What I like to do is use my single stage press to pre size my 45 ACP range brass, before I run it through the Dillon. The single stage die can get down a little further than the Dillon progressive die does. The shell holder is thinner, which makes the difference.

It is quite possible that you can lower your sizer die on your Dillon a little bit more, which would help. Good luck!

 

[mikld]

Perhaps the bullet is bottoming out on the rifling/chamber end? Is the 45 you reloaded prior to the "new" brass a 45 ACP?

 

[growr]

No bullet is seated yet.....out of the re-sizing die straight into either the barrel or my gauge.

Randy

 

[Trooperdan]

what brand of brass?

 

[Rule3]

Kind of a catch 22. It spaces on the case mouth so if it's not sized correctly it will not drop into the barrel.

Do you by chance have another press like a single stage to try putting you die in that and size a few cases to see if that works??

Know anyone else who loads, try it on their set up?

What gun did he shoot them in or did he buy this brass??

 

[SPDGG]

fwiw/imho:

- I know many people refer to base bulged brass as "glock brass", but Many Barrels from Many Manufactures in almost every semi auto handgun caliber will have this. Not all barrels have the rear case support we would like & manuf. do this to feeding issues at a minumum, keep the reliability percentage up. As most assume you will be using NEW Manufactured Ammunition & a lot recommend NOT using reloads . . . BUT, this is AMERICA = Every home should have a Press or Two

Lee U Carbide Die [aka EGW Undersize Die, Lee make manuf. it for them]
- Lee U Carbide Small Base Sizing Die 45 ACP 45 GAP

 

[gray wolf]

It was always my understanding that Dillon dies were radiused on the bottom to allow easy entry of the cases. Perhaps a different die will get closer to the web. I have not seen many bulged 45 ACP cases being they are a low pressure round.

But I have seen some fired from a full auto that needed a little special attention.

 

[KLYDE]

Got my hands on 500 cases fired from a Glock. Resized on my RCBS RS5 single stage and not an issue. Drop right into my Wilson case gauge. As others mentioned I would explore a single stage resize.

 

[growr]

about 3/4 of it is federal and the rest mostly WW with a few Remingtons... Just finished with 500 mixed headstamp .45 ACP's that I shot from my own 1911's......NO problems with anything....

I will set up my RCBS die in a single stage and see if I can get more of the casing into the die......
Randy

 

[scooter123]

The simple answer is that Glock Bulge isn't only produced by Glock pistols. There have been comments posted concerning a moderate lack of support with the 45 caliber XDS and many other "pocketable" 40 and 45 caliber pistols. Personally I suspect that any semi in 45 ACP with a barrel length of less than about 3 1/2 inches will have a feed ramp that intrudes into the chamber further than ideal.

The good news is that there are bulge buster dies on the market now so the solution is there for a price. The bad news is that I have a strong hunch that repeated bulge busting will shorten the useful life of the cases.

 

[rhorne]

Try resetting your shell plate. Loosen the lock screw on the underside of the ram, place a piece of brass in each of the 4 stations, tighten the center bolt until the shell plate will not turn. Now back off the bolt off just enough to turn the shell plate. Then lock the center bolt down. This will take the play out of the shell holder. Run the ram all the way up and run the sizing die all the way down and touch the shell plate. This will take the play out of the ram-shell plate area. You should be able to re-size the case to the web now.

Hope this helps,
Robert

 

[BigBill]

Check the case length? If your decapping is the decapper rod too low?

 

[max]

I think you have 2 good suggestions. Try a different die in the resizing station and adjust the shell plate.

 

[Rule3]

about 3/4 of it is federal and the rest mostly WW with a few Remingtons... Just finished with 500 mixed headstamp .45 ACP's that I shot from my own 1911's......NO problems with anything....

I will set up my RCBS die in a single stage and see if I can get more of the casing into the die......
Randy

Yep it's probably that cheap Dillon junk, it never works right! Should a bought a LEE

 

[chipking]

Is the brass by any chance AMERC brand? If it is that is your problem. I finally had to sort through several thousand cases and toss every one. Even now if I get a case that won't chamber in my 625 odds are real good that it is another AMERC that I missed in the first sort.
Most 45 cases have a very long tapered web inside so, for what it's worth, I do not believe that the pressures are high enough in the 45 to get an unsupported chamber bulge unless the chamber has been seriously hogged out.
Sorry I missed your earlier post about brand.
Chip King

 

[fredj338]

I use Dillon dies, never had an issue with any range brass. Make sure the die is touching the shell plate, use a complete stroke. Never seen glocked brass in 45acp.

 

[Squarebutt]

Don't forgot to check for the %&*#@^ small primers.

 

[2hawk]

One of these will fix ya right up:

Lee Bulge Buster : LEE BULGE BUSTER | Brownells

 

[PPCSHOOTER]

EGW MAKES A SPECIALLY GROUND LEE CARBIDE SIZING DIE. IT GOES DOWN FARTHER ON THE PROGRESSIVE DIES. THIS COULD DO IT FOR YOU. JIM P