4506-1 (R4) "dash 3"

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As a S&W 3rd generation fan, I've gathered information on them over the years. Some of the information I gathered here. Some of those early 2000 to 2005 45XX threads are no longer available. I still have some meager records of information relating to the 45XX series and will post it here as I come across it. It may be of value to those of you who appreciate/collect/accumulate the 45XX series pistols as I do.

The 4506-1 is a fine pistol, by any standard. I've found (through my experiences and those of many others) that there is a subset within the 4506-1 series that bears mentioning. The 4506-1 "dash 3".

4506-1 production "officially" ended around 1999 when the 4506-1 was removed from the catalog. S&W continued to produce batches of 4506-1's though, for LE orders. Orders ranged in size from 50 to a few hundred. S&W referred to these guns as 4506-1 revision 4. Shooters/collectors/accumulators have called these 4506-1's "dash 3's" by virtue of the "03" in the upper right hand corner of the label on their boxes.

The label on the box being the surest identifier as there is some variation within this subset of the model 4506-1. These dash 3's appear to have started around 1998/99. All that I have seen had MIM hammers and triggers, black in color. All I've handled and shot have been particularly accurate with excellent triggers right out of the box. VERY good triggers and AMAZINGLY accurate actually. While neither myself nor anyone else, to date, has been able to verify it, it would appear that these dash 3's either had more attention during contruction or were machined to tighter tolerances than previous 4506-1's.

IIRC, there was a 2005 thread where members Wolfy and 45CQB related seperate instances of firing examples of these 4506-1 dash 3's. Both members commented on how nice the triggers were and how surprised they were at the inherent accuracy of these examples. They also pointed out the 03 in the labels. At the time, Lew Horton had a batch of these for sale as well. NIB 4506-1 dash 3's. LE contract overuns is what we were told.

There are three different types of 4506-1 (R4) dash 3 observed. All have the larger barrel hood. The early variants have roll marks on the slide and frame. These have been observed with "V" serial prefixes. VAV, VJP, VLN have been some that I've seen. This variant of the dash 3 was produced with both fixed Novak sights and adjustable sights. The rollmarks on the frame were two lines - serial number and "MOD 4506-1".

The next is very similar but includes factory night sights. The scarcest variant being a 4506-1 (R4) dash 3 with factory adjustable night sights AND rollmarks vice laser etching. Many of these were made for the LAPD and IIRC a member here lettered his and showed us where it was sent to the LAPD revolver and athletic club.

Then there is the 4506-1 (R4) dash 3 with laser etched markings. These markings consist of "Smith & Wesson" and "Springfield MA" with the S&W logo laser etched on the slide. On the frame is a two line laser etching of the serial number and model number. The model number however is not "4506-1", it is simply "MOD 4506". The very final 4506-1's produced were all of this variant. The final examples having three lines laser etched on the frame. The 3rd line being a repeat of the S&W address and, IMO, making the markings look.......too busy......cheesy?

Anyways, I hope this info is of some interest to those 4506 fans. If anyone has pics or additional info, please post it/them. Thanks! :) Regards 18DAI
 
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Thankyou 18DA. I always knew that my 4506 was a tackdriver but really didn't know why. I always wondered why my pistol was etched a MOD 4506 with a rounded trigger guard but no dash 1.
Also the lockup on this pistol is tighter than any other pistol I own. I can barely get the barrel out of the slide when I take it apart.
I bought the gun used at the local gunshop without a box so I never saw 3 listed on it but it is definitely my favorite 45.
My serial is TDNXXXX which indicates a later model I believe.

Thanks again
 
Hi mirroir,

Funny you mention the thing with the barrel. My VJP prefix 4506 dash 3 is the same way. The barrel is harder to get in and out of the slide than my PC 45 CQB is with its Briley bushing.

Mine is a tack driver as well. My friend has a Les Baer 1911. I shot tiny groups - just as tiny as his - with my substantially less expensive 4506 dash 3. So did he! He looked a little green and sickly when he found out it was a standard production pistol and I had less than $600 in it. ;)

TDM is 1999. My duty 4566 is a TDM prefix. Regards 18DAI
 
Hey 18DAI, you might remember me as I asked about buying a 4506 in March and you quickly responded with a YES!!! I bought a misadvertised 45-06 on GB with a buy now, mint with box, paper, and three mags. :D
It is as you described "Then there is the 4506-1 (R4) dash 3 with laser etched markings. These markings consist of "Smith & Wesson" and "Springfield MA" with the S&W logo laser etched on the slide. On the frame is a two line laser etching of the serial number and model number. The model number however is not "4506-1", it is simply "MOD 4506". The very final 4506-1's produced were all of this variant. The final examples having three lines laser etched on the frame"
I have only two lines etched on the frame not the ugly 3rd, and I have to agree this thing is quite impressive. Mine features the adjustable sights and a serial number prefix of EKZ77__ and special order 9134.
I like it so much I picked up a very good condition used 4566 with VUV prefix, and automatic deckocker, it also has trijicon night sights which need replaced but I dont know if that was factory. I know the automatic decocker is somewhat rare. Do you know if this is also a rare bird?
Thank you for your knowledge sir, I will try to get pics up soon.
 
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Hi huelsterb,

Of course I remember! :) Best deal on a dash 3 I've ever seen. I'm still green with envy! ;)

I believe EKZ is the serial prefix of the very last 4506-1 dash 3's made. I've not seen a later serial prefix on a 4506. I'm pretty sure they were one of the final batches made.

I have seen a 4566TSW with 3 lines on the frame and a serial prefix starting with the letter B. Allegedly it was a 2008 vintage. It had the stupid rail, decock only and a spurless hammer.

Yes, the 4566 without TSW suffix, decock only and laser etched markings, is a scarce pistol. Not as scarce as your 4506 dash 3, but not common. These are usually found with a spurless hammer too. Nice, barely used examples are rare.

My duty 4566 is one of these. It has Novak low mount night sights and laser etched markings as well. All factory original.

These 4566's, configured as described, were fairly popular in NC LE agencies. Some large college campus police agencies had them, as well as several large Sheriff's departments.

I love mine. I consider it the second best duty pistol made. The best duty pistol made being a 4 inch barrel, stainless Performance Center 4566 CQB. ;) I'm working on getting one of those in my holster. :) Regards 18DAI
 
Thanks for the post. I picked up a 4506-1 in minty condition back in Feb. sure enough it's a tack driver. I had it out tonight. The box has the 03 on it SN VDH2014.. The box also says special order #5263.
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I know this is a discussion of the back-end of the 4506, but I could not help myself by throwing in a pic of my 645 transitional...the base that started it all. You can have your $1000+ 1911's...I will gladly stand toe to toe with you with my 645. Damn thing will cycle empty rounds...got to love that.

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Very interesting reading. I've carried S&W's off and on throughout my career, especially the early part. This thread made me want to go dig my 4506-1 out of the safe. I picked it up as a police trade in at the local CopShop for $300. I was able to sort through the pile and take the nicest one.

Absolutely one of the best double action triggers ever! The single action is a little creepy and needs work. Accuracy and reliability are and have been the best you could ask for.

That being said - I'm wondering if it's one of the variants you mention?? I didn't get a box with it. The s/n is VYC**** if that helps?? It seems to have the other features as well, but I'm no expert.
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Might be time for the range. I need to acquire a few more mags too...still have only the three it came with.
 
That would appear to be a dash 3 inspcalahan. You could confirm it by calling S&W customer service, giving them your serial number and confiming it is a 4506-1 revision 4.

You and mbliss57 have early production revision 4 dash 3's as evidenced by the forged hammers. Only the first few batches or 4506-1 (R4) "dash 3" had forged hammers. There are also some that the owners changed out the MIM hammer on for a forged part. The vast majority of production of the 4506-1 R4 dash 3's having the black MIM hammers and triggers.

My early 4506-1 R4 dash 3 is a VAV prefix and has the forged hammer. My later production LAPD 4506-1 R4 dash 3, with factory adjustable night sights, is in the VJP serial prefix. It has a MIM hammer and trigger. Hope this info helps! Regards 18DAI
 
Thanks for the info! I'll call S&W and see what I can find out.

Does that add to the value at all? or is it just something of note more to collectors? I'm not looking to sell - I stopped selling guns a long time ago. Just curious - other than the always changing model numbers, I never really knew there were variations among each one.
 
The value of a 4506-1 in good condition has risen a bit in the last two years. A west coast LE member here tells me that a LNIB 4506-1 with night sights and 5 mags brings $1200. Locally, a nice 4506-1 with one mag brings around $600 +. I think anything below $600 is a steal. Especially when you consider that most current production plastic/MIM guns go for over $500 +.

I'm not a collector, so I can't opine on whether the 4506-1 R4 dash 3 is worth more to those folks. Due to the general lack of interest in S&W 3rd generation auto-pistols, I'm not sure too many collectors are aware of them.

As a shooter and competitor I can tell you it is preferable to the standard 4506-1 simply for the better trigger and increased accuracy. Regards 18DAI
 
18DAI,
I always enjoy reading your posts and this one is no exception. Thanks for posting up this info. I had previously followed a couple of threads pertaining to this issue awhile back but lost track of them after awhile. Here is a pic of my 4506-(3) with the TDN prefix.
 
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My 4506-1 has the 03 on the box, and a special order number listed on th box as well (plastic box if that matters). The SN though is LJFXXXX. is it an R4 dash 3?
 
Another great post , my question is a little off topic though. I saw a 4006 looks new at the gun store for around 500 to 600 , should I jump at this ? I'd have to put it on layaway but i was wondering if there are any things details to look at or are the respectively all the same. I have never shot a 40 & for some reason frown upon them a bit seeing as I'd rather have a 10mm & I own the 645 & 659 . They also have another 659 for 300 . Thoughts ?
 
I know this is a discussion of the back-end of the 4506, but I could not help myself by throwing in a pic of my 645 transitional...the base that started it all. You can have your $1000+ 1911's...I will gladly stand toe to toe with you with my 645. Damn thing will cycle empty rounds...got to love that.

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+1, love my 645. It's a TBD82xx serial. My first Smith auto.

I also like my 4506-1 I just recently got, only taken it to the range once. Shoots just as good as my 645. It's a TYS92xx serial, have not bothered to look up it's date yet.
 
....Then there is the 4506-1 (R4) dash 3 with laser etched markings. These markings consist of "Smith & Wesson" and "Springfield MA" with the S&W logo laser etched on the slide. On the frame is a two line laser etching of the serial number and model number. The model number however is not "4506-1", it is simply "MOD 4506"....

Mine is in this group.VJD08XX serial number. Came apparently unfired with box ad all the goodies including fired case envelope dated 07-12-2001. Fixed Novak Sights. Only modifications I have done is to add Hogue rubber grips and a bobbed hammer from a 6906.
 
Snag a 4516-1 (R4) "dash 3"?

Did anyone on here snag the 4506-1 (R4) "dash 3" on GunBroker recently?

It went for $705.

(Handejector, my apologies for posting the link. The prohibition against showing active auctions slipped my attention.)
 
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