460 Magnum Sight Options

[les_garten]

What sight options are there for the 460 sights?

I really have trouble seeing those Red Plastic sights.

 

[Rob41]

Which version of the .460 do you have? I've got the 8 3/8" barreled XVR which came with a green HI-VIZ interchangeable front sight.

My eyes aren't what they used to be but I find the green HI-VIZ is easy to see even in low light.

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[les_garten]

I'm shopping right now.

I am looking for a 5" barrel.

Not sure about the differences between the V vs the XVR?

 

[Rob41]

I'm not either but ruggy, a member here, has several of the .460 and .500 X-frames as well as a wealth of other knowledge on these guns. Hopefully he'll chime as he's likely the best resource of information.

 

[ruggyh]

I few threads you might find of interest

http://smith-wessonforum.com/s-w-revolvers-1980-present/355934-460v-front-sight-same-other-s-w-pinned-front-sights.html


http://smith-wessonforum.com/s-w-revolvers-1980-present/390444-smith-wesson-460-vxr-5-a.html

http://smith-wessonforum.com/s-w-revolvers-1980-present/406212-460-5-vs-3-5-a.html

http://smith-wessonforum.com/s-w-revolvers-1980-present/419186-just-ordered-5-460v-good-gun.html


Good luck and be safe
Ruggy

 

[les_garten]

I few threads you might find of interest




Good luck and be safe
Ruggy

Thanx! I read those, and looked over all your posts that related to the 460.

1) In reference to 5" barreled guns. What is the difference between a V and a XVR?

2) What are the best 460 rounds to get to end up with good brass for reloading?

3) Which LPA sights work on the 460?

4) Is there any better grip for grip retention(Think Bloody hand) and recoil besides the stock grips?

I am interested in using this for anti bear during Alaskan fishing trips and camping only. No hunting.

 

[ruggyh]

1) In reference to 5" barreled guns. What is the difference between a V and a XVR? The V designates 5" barrel-4 " barrel and an inch of compensator, no other functional difference form the 8 3/8" gun. The only other designation is the ES which is the 2 7/8" snub nose.

2) What are the best 460 rounds to get to end up with good brass for reloading? I prefer Starline Brass-have not had any real issues with any of the other brass- I believe it has the best service life.

3) Which LPA sights work on the 460?I use the TXT02F1 or TXT02F2- I have TXT0107 also but don't use it as much, mine are mounted on the 3.5" and 6.5" models 460s currently

4) Is there any better grip for grip retention(Think Bloody hand) and recoil besides the stock grips?For most individuals the stock grip works very well. You can use and round butt K frame grip. Wood grips need to fill your hand to be comfortable when shooting- this is regardless of caliber. The harder the recoil the more important this becomes. I find the Nill grips to very comfortable but they comparatively more expensive.
As a side note here proper grip is one of the most important things to learn. The web of the hand should be at the top of the grip.

I am interested in using this for anti bear during Alaskan fishing trips and camping only. No hunting. This is always a controversial subject and there are a lot of different opinions. First of note any revolver that stands a reasonable chance of detouring a brown bear is going to very loud ( I would not shoot a 460 without hearing protection). If I had to choose a gun it would be the uncompensated 3.5" with loaded with hard cast bullets in the 300 to 320 grain size with large flat nose loaded to 1250- 1400 fps, little muzzle flip, flash and noise. You need to be able to get the gun on the bear and deliver all the rounds quickly- these will be punch a hole through most any thing. The grizzly bear you see in my recent post came at us from 60 yards and the the event lasted less than 4 second, it ended just 20 yards in front of me. Note I was aware and ready had the gun out and up.
I also carry bear spray with me also, if you see the bear first and the wind is not excessive it will stop a curious bear. Most bear are going to ovoid conflict. Learn about bear behavior- that is the best defense, but you need to have a gun and spray for the times when SHTF.

Good luck and be safe
Ruggy

 

[les_garten]

I didn't see the Bear post, do you have a link for it? I've read a lot of Bear stories recently.

I originally had the Ruger Super Redhawk Toklat on my list in 454. Your Ballistics suggestion match the 454 performance.

We carry Bear spray walking the dog in my neighborhood! I call it anti-pitbull and idiot spray. They seem to go together for some reason.

 

[ruggyh]

I originally had the Ruger Super Redhawk Toklat on my list in 454. Your Ballistics suggestion match the 454 performance.

Yes they are similar, the difference is when shot out of the 460 the recoil and muzzle flip will be noticeably reduced because of the extra weight of the revolver. This allows you to get back on target quickly. When you shoot a bear you need to continue until he stops moving.

One of the thing most 460 owners fail to realize is just because it is a hot rod does not mean me have to drive it hard all the time.

Bullets this size can be driven slower than their potential (from a 460) and perform extremely well.

The smaller bullets tend to perform best when driven near there max. The heavier bullets you use you will find the 460 very forgiving in regards to grouping size over their loading range.
As an example 300 XTP MAG perform fine at minimum load levels, typically 1550fps all the way up to their max at 1800 fps.
Over this range the group vary from 2" to 3" free hand plenty good enough for hunting game animals.

If you trying to reach out past 100 yards then additions speed will help keep the bullet flatter and requires less from the shooter in regards to hold over.

here is a picture of that bear, he came out of those trees you see in the background on the left about 45 yards from were he is laying

 

[TGaryT]

Ruggyh

That is definitely not a Teddy bear! Personally I carry a 460 5" with Trijon sights as my Alaskan fishing companion. Manage to score some 300 MP powder and load up 50 rounds of 300 XTP mag this morning. Life can get very interesting when you come on one these critters protecting a moose kill.

 

[Rivoak01]

This doesn't exactly answer any question asked, but I have a 460 5", a pocket cannon and a 500 performance center model. Having shot all three, I am a bit partial to the 500 model. It has a picatinny rail with an aim point red dot and I shot Magtech "featherweight" loads. The gun is very heavy, but the recoil is comfortable, and the rounds carry a pretty good wallop. Could be a figment of my imagination, but when I shot Hornady 200gr out of my 460, the gun has a lot more felt recoil that the 500 shooting 275gr. In fact, when I move up to a heavier bullet in my 460, recoil seems to be reduced from that of the lighter round.

 

[ruggyh]

The gun is very heavy, but the recoil is comfortable, and the rounds carry a pretty good wallop. Could be a figment of my imagination, but when I shot Hornady 200gr out of my 460, the gun has a lot more felt recoil that the 500 shooting 275gr. In fact, when I move up to a heavier bullet in my 460, recoil seems to be reduced from that of the lighter round.

The 460 did have more recoil in this instance as it produced more energy. The perception of recoil is also enhanced by the pressure wave and report. Most 275 grain factory 500 loads are moderate. When the 275 is load to velocity of near 2100 fps you would feel very differently.

Good luck and be safe
Ruggy

 

[Deergun]

460 red dot

Yes they are similar, the difference is when shot out of the 460 the recoil and muzzle flip will be noticeably reduced because of the extra weight of the revolver. This allows you to get back on target quickly. When you shoot a bear you need to continue until he stops moving.

One of the thing most 460 owners fail to realize is just because it is a hot rod does not mean me have to drive it hard all the time.

Bullets this size can be driven slower than their potential (from a 460) and perform extremely well.

The smaller bullets tend to perform best when driven near there max. The heavier bullets you use you will find the 460 very forgiving in regards to grouping size over their loading range.
As an example 300 XTP MAG perform fine at minimum load levels, typically 1550fps all the way up to their max at 1800 fps.
Over this range the group vary from 2" to 3" free hand plenty good enough for hunting game animals.

If you trying to reach out past 100 yards then additions speed will help keep the bullet flatter and requires less from the shooter in regards to hold over.

here is a picture of that bear, he came out of those trees you see in the background on the left about 45 yards from were he is laying

Ruggy, I see in ur picture it looks like you have the same 460 performance center as I recently purchased, even looks like three trijicon I want to put on mine but the hardware won't fit in rail.