5th Edition - Initial Thoughts

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Finally got here - yesterday was a great day for me when I saw the book on my desk mid-day! I stayed up until 1:30 AM reading in bed until my wife threw a pillow at me and gave me 'the look' - I either needed to cut off the light, or I was risking my life.

My very initial impressions having read 30-40 pages - values, some models updated descriptions, etc...back and forth glimpses

LOVE:
* The format - similar to the 4th edition, very structured for historical chapters and each model - description, values, values premiums, variations, specific product codes - it all flows so naturally!
* Value comps over time in the 5th addition for 20-30 models - one can pick up more easily the areas that are doing well in terms of price appreciation and areas that are stagnant
* Value commentary - trends, observations in trends, always very helpful
* Size - 550 pages or so, the book did not feel like it got bigger, so it is manageable to carry around (gun shows, stores, etc...), right size for me - not the 2,000 page Gun Digest, but more than the skimpy HS and Colt 'catalogs' I have
* Quality and overall value - the books is of highest quality in terms of look, feel, pictures, paper, how it is bound and it is a great value - best $ spend on a gun book by far for me!

Have questions on:
* Some model values seemed off given what I have seen both locally and online - Model 41 values specifically seemed high (or perhaps I bought well 2-3 times recently)

What else I would like to see?
* Would have liked to have seen the value trends for the M29 and M27 (as the top dogs on the S&W food chain) and the model 39 as the daddy of the semi-autos
* More accurate designations for finish - Bright Blue vs. Blue (M29,27,19,52, 41 in some years I believe are Bright Blue, per old Shooter's Bibles)
* A Colt expert to take Jim's approach to the book and put together an alike book for Colt - I have 3 books on Colts and all three collectively do not have even 1/2 of the utility and usefulness of Jim's SCSW. I mean this in the most positive way I can, not to knock down any existing Colt books...

All in all, I had been waiting for 6 months, and so far the book is overdelivering - thank you, Jim for all of your work, your team who is helping and all the people who were involved in delivering this great product! Best gun book I have read, and the new addition continues to raise the bar!

Now, I will go back to reading more...:-)

PS: I have had the 4th eddition for 5-6 years now, and find the 5th eddition to be adding additional value, would recommend to anyone.
 
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Well I'll be...I just got my copy off the Amazonmobile, barely cracked the cover and found myself mentioned as a contributor...I'm flabbergasted!...:eek:...Ben

Yes, I was going to comment about how impressive it is to see so many Forum members' contributions.

The 5th Edition is nice work (as usual), Jim & Richard! I think it's just great!
 
Values have always been a problem as the market changes so frequently for various reasons. If anything, the internet has made it worse by causing inflated values caused by two or more idiots getting caught up in a bidding war. The values listed in the book, just like those listed in the Blue Book of Gun Values should be considered more of a guide rather than gospel.

Jim and Richard continue to excel with their ongoing endeavor and we continue to benefit from the fruit of their labor. S&W collectors are truly in their debt. I own both the electronic version and the hard cover book. The electronic copy goes with me wherever I go.
 
Values have always been a problem as the market changes so frequently for various reasons.
The "value" of anything always has been and continues to be an individual determination...One size does not fit all...Especially so if you're trying to compare "value" in dollar bills; those numbers vary greatly also...

I don't worry too much about whether I got a good deal, or could have done better...If both traders leave the arena happy, then it was a good deal for all...:)...Ben
 
The "value" of anything always has been and continues to be an individual determination...One size does not fit all...Especially so if you're trying to compare "value" in dollar bills; those numbers vary greatly also...

I don't worry too much about whether I got a good deal, or could have done better...If both traders leave the arena happy, then it was a good deal for all...:)...Ben

Agree with the above. I would add that the price (what is in any book) is more objective and the 'value' definitely has the subjectivity of the above factors + personal preferences. Some people put more value on 'condition' vs. others, etc...

When I buy, I first look to get a good 'value', and then a good 'price'. If something is overpriced, it could still be good value for me - a model I care for, something that has any sentimental value, missing model wthin a mini collection...
 
Values have always been a problem as the market changes so frequently for various reasons. If anything, the internet has made it worse by causing inflated values caused by two or more idiots getting caught up in a bidding war. The values listed in the book, just like those listed in the Blue Book of Gun Values should be considered more of a guide rather than gospel.

Jim and Richard continue to excel with their ongoing endeavor and we continue to benefit from the fruit of their labor. S&W collectors are truly in their debt. I own both the electronic version and the hard cover book. The electronic copy goes with me wherever I go.

Totally agree - I hardly find any good deals on GB, as an example - better deals locally, especially when a large collection hits one of the LGS. Guns shows could be a hit or a miss as well...Online almost impossible, there will be always those two above you describe that seem to not be able to see all the issues with the gun they are buying.
 
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