6 year old takes gun to school

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Child, 6, brings gun to school (w/video) | Houston & Texas News | Chron.com - Houston Chronicle What was a 6 year old doing with a loaded gun in school. What was a 6 year old doing with a loaded gun anywhere. I don't care if it is an air gun or a firearm, he should never have been able to get hold of it. If he picked it up at home, I do hope the parents are in police custody and facing a prison sentence in due course. If he didn't pick it up at home, where did he get it?
 
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Someone will soon cite the child's 2A rights. :mad:

In all seriousness, this illustrates the absolute fact that some people should NOT be allowed to own/possess a gun(s). In the instant case I am speaking of the child's parent/guardian or whomever's gun it was.

Be safe.


anglaispierre said:
Child, 6, brings gun to school (w/video) | Houston & Texas News | Chron.com - Houston Chronicle What was a 6 year old doing with a loaded gun in school. What was a 6 year old doing with a loaded gun anywhere. I don't care if it is an air gun or a firearm, he should never have been able to get hold of it. If he picked it up at home, I do hope the parents are in police custody and facing a prison sentence in due course. If he didn't pick it up at home, where did he get it?
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That gun would not be legal in CA,it failed the drop test.:eek:
I am all for optional skills for first responding paramedics to do field neutering of stupid people.;)
 
The Big D said:
Someone will soon cite the child's 2A rights.
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Why doesn't the child have Second Amendment rights? Does the child have freedom of religion? Does the child have the right to freedom of speech? Does a child have the right to due process if they commit a crime?

The answer, in all cases, is "of course they have those rights". The Constitution confers those rights unconditionally. The document's authors assumed that they didn't have to codify into law the obvious responsibilties that go with those rights.

If somebody does cite the child's Second Amendment rights (which, as I read the Constitution, they have), I also hope they cite the responsibility of the parents or guardians to ensure that the child is protected from his own whims. It is improper to attack a person's Constitutional rights without also properly assigning blame for the breakdown in responsibilities that must accompany every right.
 
In the article, they state that they are investigating how the boy came into possession of the pistol.
Why is it assumed that it was one of the kids parents that allowed access?
What is the back story on this school? is it in an area of gang activity? if so the pieces might start to fit. We cant assume that our culture is a uniform constant everywhere because it isn't
In North Omaha I would not be all that shocked to hear of a kid in a stroller packin an UZI... disappointed .. YEAH but not shocked. I dont assume the culture I live in, and with, has any resemblance to what exists there.
I have a gut feeling that this is one such case of how it done in da hood
 
Not all knowing the facts... but after looking at some news videos on the incident... I'd make a highly educated guess that the child picked up the gun from someone who should not legally be in possession of a fire arm.

That may be a major factor in letting a kindergarten child bring a gun to school.
 
Gentlemen,

I have deleted a few postings and I see some here have already deleted their postings before I got to them.

These discussion threads go a lot smoother if our thoughts and criticisms stay focused on the subject rather than on each other.

phil
 
G.T. Smith said:
Raven.:confused:
Peace,
gordon
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I'm not sure why my post got deleted. I also didn't know it was one of those over priced $50 Ravens. That explains the going off when dropped part.

I must admit I bought one when I was really poor. It works but I will try not to drop it.
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BuckeyeChuck said:
The answer, in all cases, is "of course they have those rights". The Constitution confers those rights unconditionally.
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Children do not have the mentioned rights at school. The courts, including the Supreme Court have so ruled many times. The legal reasons that is true is above my pay grade.

Whatever anybody's rights are, how in the world does a six year old get a loaded handgun? Speculation on the child's home is not appropriate here but I bet I can wager a pretty good guess.

Bob
 
bk43 said:
Children do not have the mentioned rights at school. The courts, including the Supreme Court have so ruled many times. The legal reasons that is true is above my pay grade.

Whatever anybody's rights are, how in the world does a six year old get a loaded handgun? Speculation on the child's home is not appropriate here but I bet I can wager a pretty good guess.

Bob
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I can speculate as to a few ways a 6YO gets his paws on a piece.
1) found in a sock drawer
2) passed off to the kid by an older punk.
3) discovery of a hastily discarded arm

You know ... the same way WE came into possession of arms at that age. This part really hasnt changed all that much.
what has changed is that we had a better understanding of the care and feeding of arms at that age due to a healthier view of them.
 
Read about this in todays paper...Thank God no one was killed...I don't blame the 6yo boy at all and I hope they don't expel him for life...One thing I do know is that if you think as a parent you can hide a hand gun or anything else from a small boy, you are dead wrong...When I was a lad there was no hiding place in the house that I didn't know about and if I had come across a pistol you better believe that I whoul have picked it up and tried to shoot the thing...:eek:...no doubt about it...
 
Here's another tedious example of "news" reporting at its scandalous worst --- few facts, no quotes from authorities or functionaries or anyone who has anything insightful to illuminate the incident, just a bunch of irrelevant "reactions" from people who had no first-hand knowledge of the incident, blathering their know-nothing opinions about an incident about which they know nothing.

It's hard to attribute any malevolence to a little kid --- and according to the sketchy account, it was at worst an accidental discharge, not an assault. Tempest in a teapot, inflated by "reporters" into an incident probably worthy of more examination than uninformed commentary.
 
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BuckeyeChuck said:
Why doesn't the child have Second Amendment rights?
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A person under age 18 may not possess a handgun or handgun ammunition, and it is illegal for a person to provide a handgun or handgun ammunition to a person under age 18, except for target shooting, hunting, or certain other exempted purposes. (Youth Handgun Safety Act, 1994)

BuckeyeChuck said:
Does the child have freedom of religion?
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No - the parents have the right to select the child's religion.

BuckeyeChuck said:
Does the child have the right to freedom of speech?
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No - the parents have the right to silence the child if it says something the parents don't like. There are "intervention" services available to enforce these rules by physical force.

BuckeyeChuck said:
Does a child have the right to due process if they commit a crime?
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Generally no - if they commit a crime at school, the school authorities can punish them with any legal process. If they commit a crime at home, the parents can punish them instead of notifying the police.
 
venomballistics said:
I have a gut feeling that this is one such case of how it done in da hood
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Venom, it also how it done in da country. I wuz razed from Appalachia wheer it wuz allrite, yaknowwhaddimean? Weer all about keepin are gunz on us two and we teech the young un's there sekund amendent rites early.:mad:
 
According to KTRH-AM, the kid was trying to cock the pistol when it fell to the floor and went off. The make and model were not given, but it was said to be a .380 Automatic.

(BTW KTRH is a news radio station in Houston)
 
BuckeyeChuck said:
The Constitution confers those rights unconditionally.
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Actually, no, it does not. The Constitution, more specifically the first Ten Amendments, recognizes rights which existed prior to the Constitution being drafted. You cannot confer a right, only a privilege.
 
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