686 7 shot conversion

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I have seen posts about this but none clearly answered my question.
I have a S&W 686 from about 1985. I'd like to convert it to 7 shots with full moon clips, and have it convertible back to 6 shots. Does anyone know if this is possible and where I can have it done?
Thanks,
Ken GreatGazoo
 
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Find a 7 shot 686 Plus cylinder, send it to Pinnacle be cut for moonclips and fitted to the gun. Voila.
 
Whoa. Hold your horses.

While I am sure that the cylinders are interchangeable, I am not so sure about the hand. You may need to get the gun retimed.
 
Sideplates, yokes, cylinders, barrels and ratchets are not drop in parts. You can get lucky with any one of them but that is unlikely.

Unless your blessed with luck, "fitting" a cylinder can be a can of worms. If your new cylinder slides a few thousandths forward on the yoke it can be shimmed. If the yoke barrels is a few thousands too long for your new cylinder it can be shortened and your old cylinder shimmed. After both cylinders are correctly held back the B/C gap is adjusted. If it's good with one cylinder but too small or non existent with the other the longer cylinder can be shortened in a lathe. If the B/C gap is too big with either cylinder the barrel has to be set back before the longer cylinder is shortened. Setting a barrel back is a lathe job that runs $100 to $150.

Generally it's advised that you reuse the old ratchet but that obviously can't be done with a different number of chambers. If my fuzzy memory of what's been posted is good, 6 and 7 shot 686s use the same hand. You can look in parts lists on S&W's web site to verify the part number is the same but that doesn't guarantee your new cylinder will carry up correctly. For the two cylinder convertible I created the first ratchet I tried was unusable because the subtle shape of ratchet teeth had changed over the years. I found one that worked great but I couldn't predict that before purchasing it. Similarly if you buy your second cylinder with a yoke the new yoke may not even swing into the frame. That's one reason yokes, frames and side plates get an assembly number to keep them together after they are fitted.

So, you want to buy a random cylinder and plop it right in. Are you feeling lucky?
 
I've done it, but the other way around: 7 shots to 6. As noted above, it can be quite involved. Or not. It's easier if you have lots of spare cylinders and a lathe.
 
Geez, guys. Read my post, "fitted" is the operative word and why I suggested Pinnacle (Pinnacle High Performance Custom Gunsmithing) to do the work. I didn't say anything about just dropping it in.

Mark Hartshorne is an expert machinist and master revolversmith and can cut the cylinder for moonclips as well as fit it to the gun so the the OP would have the choice of switching cylinders anytime he wants.

So, you see? It is a simple project. As simple as paying someone who know what they're doing to work their magic!
 
Geez, guys. [...]

I apologize. You did indeed refer the OP to a gunsmith. My comments were directed towards the OP and other readers who might ignorantly buy a second cylinder assuming there will be no significant expense involved in fitting it. I've seen too many posts stating that extra cylinders generally drop right in and had to learn the hard way myself.
 
The gunsmith mentioned above may well indeed be an expert but that doesn't change the fact that the OP wants to be able to exchange 7-shot and 6-shot cylinders at will. As someone said, that's very, very unlikely to be possible. Timing of the cylinders indexing for 7 stops vs 6 stops is not going to be the same. IOW it isn't going to work...unless the fit is so sloppy that any precision is thrown out the window. In that case it would become a safety issue in my mind.

So, the answer to the OP's question should be...no!

Dave
 

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