8 gauge Winchester Slug

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Guy gave me this shell. Has massive slug. Marked Zinc, Industrial. 10g slug
and 3"-12g shell next to it. He gave me 3, think I'll pull 2 and make salt&
pepper shakers.
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And break up "Clinkers" in cement kilns.

In both cases the furnace/kiln doesn't need to be shut down and allowed to cool so men can enter and do the necessary cleaning. Just a shot or two to break up the clinker or slag and everything just keeps going without lengthy delays.
 
the 8 ga. buckshot or slugs can also be used to remove break up hard water/calcium deposits from some piping in electric generating plants too. at one time, Winchester would only sell the shotguns & ammo to power plants...... word was that Winchester told the power plants they would refuse to sell them any more ammo and more shotguns if they ever resold them to employees or outsiders.........
 
saw one very briefly (1995?)in passing in a power plant we were taking some asbestos out of. was mounted on a tall monopod, some type of stand (?)& I didn't even recognize it as a shotgun, until someone later told me that it was one of those 8ga shotguns. Not sure I'd recognize it again...
 
I have one like it the fellow that gave it to me said it was for shooting up smoke stacks to clean them, I'm glad to find out he was not pulling my leg. Jeff
 
An ex B-I-L's kid brother worked at a power plant in Ky. and worked a round the clock shift during a blizzard in 1978 blasting slag and clinkers out of the furnaces. So when he built his new home the flu for the wood stove was out of 8" thick wall steel pipe, he never used a chimney brush, just a 12 gauge and buck shot! Going on 31 years now. Ivan
 
I found it interesting this was up on the new posts page at the same time as a debate on which is more powerful the .22 or the .25 ACP? Just go with the 8 gauge slug and one does not have to worry. I am fairly certain these would be one shot stoppers on man or T-Rex.
 
The story about Winchester threatening industries that use the "Kiln Gun" if they were to sell one to an employee are laughable! This is not a sporting firearm! Being over 10 Ga. it would be classified as a "Destructive device". For those who wanted to see one here is a picture.
 

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Our company was too cheap to get the clinker buster. So we did it the hard way. Pickaxe, suicide nozzles on firehoses, and sections of scaffolding poles. Cleaned my share of clinkers, clinker grinders,fly ash hoppers and stack passes. best one was cleaning the penthouses in the winter. About 125 degrees so they would only let you stay for about 10 minutes or you could pass out from heat exhaustion. Frank
 
The empty hulls are somewhat in demand by those that shoot vintage 8ga shotguns. Not much else around in 8ga afterall.
They take standard 209 shotshell primers. Black powder is usually used in the vintage guns and card & fibre wads are available yet from a couple of sources.

The recent mfg hulls are plastic case w/a high brass head. The case needs trimming for the old vintage short chambers and that's not a problem.

What can be a problem is that the Industrial 8ga hulls are mfg w/a 'belt' around the base just ahead of the rim.
The Industrial gun they are meant to be fired in is chambered for it of course,,but those old vintage guns will not accept the belted case and with good reason.

The belt was and is a safety precaution to keep the high pressure industrial round out of sporting arms which were never meant to fire them.

Some industrious souls have altered their vintage guns by cutting the chambers to accept the belted case.
Frowned upon both from a safety standpoint and the disfigurement of the collectible.
I just worked on a beautiful W&C Scott 8Ga SxS not long ago that had that surgery done to it.

A better solution comes with a price. A die to swage the the case head down to elliminate the belt. You supply the press,,a standard 7/8-14 reloading press isn't large enough in dia to take the die.
The 8ga is right around an inch dia at the case head,,so a small arbor press is the usual way to go.
..and you thought you could just buy a few empty cases and shoot the old thing..
 
Another use...

There was a special alloys plant in town that was kept in operation by the government to produce strategic metals. The ladle was bottom pour with a ceramic plug. When time to tap the ladle the 'shooter' used one of these to knock the plug out.
 
Interesting shell... I never fired one of those zinc slugs, but I'll bet the recoil wouldn't be as bad as a 10 Ga 3-1/2" lead rifled slug that some folks use on deer.

Imagine touching off one of these Eley shells on the right. 4 Ga, 4" loaded with 3 oz's of #4 shot.

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I'll bet it would leave a mark! :eek:
 
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