9mm Shotgun?

[HOUSTON RICK]

Since it is not April 1st, I have to assume that the advertisement in Classic firearms of an "Italian Chiappa Model 92 RC Little Badger Deluxe 9mm Flobert Shotgun" is in earnest. Being entirely unfamiliar with a 9mm shotgun and coming up empty on Google, I wonder if this is real and, if so, how it compares to 12 guage? Thank you.

 

[Roller Delayed]

I searched for the caliber: 9mm Flobert.

9mm Flobert Ammo - In-Stock Pistol Rounds for Sale

Garden gun.

 

[pawncop]

Saw one years ago, was in the LGS for repair. Single shot , almost looked like a toy.

The gun was in for repair, not me.

 

[Alk8944]

Usually referred to as a "Garden Gun". The only re-loaded rim-fire ammunition I have ever seen was 9mm shotshells. This was in an old hardware store in Benson, Omaha, NE in the 1950s. The proprietor let us look at the cartridges and all had at least one prior firing pin impression.
Yes, 9mm shotguns are real. It compares to a 12 ga. about the same as a .410 compares to an 8 ga, hardly at all.

 

[2152hq]

Another look at the cartridge itself

9mm Rim Fire shotshell shot shell ammo ammuntion model 36 Winchester


They've been around along time.
At 1/4oz shot payload,,don't expect much. The 2 1/2" 410 carries 1/2oz.
Though the smooth bore will help with even patterns.

Very common to find the Flobert type guns chambered in them.
A friend had a SxS Flobert in 9mmRF shot and .22LR(rifled)
A Garden 'Cape Gun' I guess, ready for any imposing strawberry patch critter!

 

[foxy320]

Got an old Anschutz single shot garden gun. Patterns ok out to about 7 yards. Shot at a target backed by 1/4" plywood at 7 yards & some of the shot bounced back. Midway sells 9mm rimfire shot shells, at least they did a couple of years ago when I bought mine.

 

[bigolddave]

The Winchester Model 36 was a single shot 9mm Rimfire shotgun. A very nice one is collectible; like many inexpensive older guns, they were not well cared for.

 

[Bill Bates]

Fiocchi still produces 9mm shot shells for the Flobert and other garden guns.

 

[bigggbbruce]

Would suck to be a rat.

 

[CAJUNLAWYER]

Thast's nice and all, but wouldn't the Governor prety much do the same thing??? I'm thinking with hand load .410s with #12 shot. Now THAT would be wicked out to about 5 yards

 

[HOUSTON RICK]

Sounds like I would be better armed with my trusty heavy Craftsman shovel.

 

[Ivan the Butcher]

I made 45 LC shot shells that were the same as the cartridge overall length 1.58" from 460 S&W brass. Mine use a card to separate the powder and shot and no wad and get 750+/- fps. They spread about 1" pattern per yard out of a 5.5" revolver with 1/2 ounce of #7.5 shot. (12" pattern @ 12 feet) Tears up West Virginal Copperheads "Something assume" according to those that used them.

They should function in a lever action, I never tried them though.

Ivan

 

[wundudnee]

Here is my model 36 9mm single shot shot gun.

As you can see it looks very much like the thumbtrigger, models 1902 and 1904 .22s. it is the third one down in this picture.

 

[Bekeart]

Long ago I was told that the teller's grand father had used a 9mm shotgun for barn pigeons in the hayloft.

Shot would NOT penetrate the roof.

Bekeart

 

[Drm50]

The 9mm RF shotguns are popular in some places. Last ones I saw new for
sale were from Century Arms back in 80s. They were made in Russian or
Finland and weren't expensive and they had shot & ball ammo for them.
A friend of mine in northern Ontario has one he uses on partridge, sitting
at close range. I have seen articles were 9mm shotgun is popular with the
various people of the artic regions for shooting birds at close range. I've shot a couple and they seem to have more velocity than our CCI 9mm
Hot Shots. Good gun for far north where you can walk up to game birds and they don't fly until you almost step on them.

 

[Charlie Foxtrott]

The nine mil shotguns were popular for a number of reasons.

Taxidermists liked to use them. Back in the day people would order such and such a stuffed animal from a taxidermist for décor in their gun room, library, office, whatever. And the shot shells were preferred as they would not tear up the hide as much as a solid bullet, at least in a cosmetic fashion.

 

[deadin]

Here's a fairly high quality Garden Gun in 9mm RF Shot with a Warnant system breech. Belgian made but retailed and marked by an Austrian dealer. The mysterious part on this gun is that it is rifled, but with straight rifling. It also has a front and rear sights and a set trigger. (Not something normally found on a shotgun.) I must assume it was also intended for a ball load, but I don't quite understand the straight rifling.

 

[walnutred]

I made 45 LC shot shells that were the same as the cartridge overall length 1.58" from 460 S&W brass. Mine use a card to separate the powder and shot and no wad and get 750+/- fps. They spread about 1" pattern per yard out of a 5.5" revolver with 1/2 ounce of #7.5 shot. (12" pattern @ 12 feet) Tears up West Virginal Copperheads "Something assume" according to those that used them.

They should function in a lever action, I never tried them though.

Ivan

Are the more "experienced" Copperheads harder to kill?

 

[scooter123]

For those interested here is a pick of 1/4 ounce of # 8 shot.

 

[Ackley1952]

I’ve owned and fired one in within the last year built for Europeans to protect garden. Bought ammo midway . The low report is the reason people bought them. Less than 22 lr .