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SW CQB 45

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planning ahead to do some heavy reloading in the cooooooler months (come on NOV!) and want to start buying components to have on hand.

Some of my practice for competition will consist of 50 yd on a B27 target.

Just playing around on the net today I came across this

http://www.meisterbullets.com/asccustompages/products.asp?cartID=&affID=&categoryid=22&navParent=0

09mm 150GR SWC .356 SPECIAL ORDER - 1000 count

Product Code: RB-09-150SWC-SP Caliber: 09 mm SWC Weight: 150 GR Diameter: (.356)

has anyone loaded and tested these puppies?

should make some very clean holes.

I bought a good stock of 200 LWSC from Meister when they were in OK and I was there on business. it's very good stuff.

is there an equivalent slug available from another source I should look at too?

thanks in advance
 
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I've been using the Penn 115gr in my .38 super. They perform fairly well. I had them going 1300fps with a 2" group @ 25yds, with no leading.

I just got around to doing a load work up with them, to hopefully, shrink my group. Won't get to ransom it over the chrony till the weekend (I hope), I'll post results when I do.
They do cut pretty holes, thats for sure.
 
The 150gr are getting long for a 9mm, so they start getting picky about how they are loaded to achieve stability. (in general, longer bullets do better with a faster twist barrel and higher vel)

If you buy them, it would be a good idea to ask the folks at meister about suitable powders and loads to save you some frustration and time.
 
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AC my friend

Don't wait for cooler weather to reload
I picked up a AC unit at Sam's for $128 and now can reload on the hottest days
Its a small 110volt unit but it cools my shed down real nice
 
Don't wait for cooler weather to reload
I picked up a AC unit at Sam's for $128 and now can reload on the hottest days
Its a small 110volt unit but it cools my shed down real nice

doing a home remodel and borrowed some $$$$ and I figured in running electricity to my backyard building in hopes to run a window unit and de-humidifier.

:(

of course the wife comes up with more stuff to buy for the remodel so my building build was cut for another year :(

is this Sam's unit for a window or is it a stand alone? thats a good price!

I agree the 150 swc looks long in the nose. I may have to buy a sample amount and test first.
 
CQB45... I have a mold for a very similar design, an old NEI product, their number 84. I believe it is about 130 grains. If you would like to try a few, send me a note off-board. I have erratic results with cast bullets in 9x19, so I will not comment except to say that generally I prefer the Air Force style design these days in all the autoloading calibers, including .45.
 
CQB45... I have a mold for a very similar design, an old NEI product, their number 84. I believe it is about 130 grains. If you would like to try a few, send me a note off-board. I have erratic results with cast bullets in 9x19, so I will not comment except to say that generally I prefer the Air Force style design these days in all the autoloading calibers, including .45.

"Air Force Style" bullet? Do you mean simply a semi-wadcutter with its center of gravity behind the center of pressure? Do you have a Lyman or Lee mod number for that in .451/.452 ?

Thanks

Flash
 
"Air Force Style" bullet? Do you mean simply a semi-wadcutter with its center of gravity behind the center of pressure? Do you have a Lyman or Lee mod number for that in .451/.452 ?
Thanks
Flash

Flash... I am thinking here of the design in any type of bullet similar to Hornady's #3556 in 9mm and #4518 in .45 caliber. If my term was/is a misnomer, I apologize. I cannot recall where it came from. :o

In a cast bullet, Saeco makes the best quasi-Air Force design in .45 caliber. I do not have the mold, but I buy bullets made from it. I am considering purchasing one soon. I would like it better if it had a slightly bigger nose flat.

In 9x19, I do not know who has a suitable mold of that design, though I do have an adequate one for .40 caliber, made by Lyman.

Some years ago, I bought that style of bullet for 9x19 from the National Cast Bullet Company. I have not purchased anthing from them in some time, but the bullets they sent back when were good. I still have some left and have been experimenting with them in my S&W M&P9L. So far, results have been fair, but not on par with Berry's product of similar weight and design.

The kind CQB is interested in we always referred to as "68s", regardless of caliber, after the famous H&G design of that number that I still think is one of the most useful all-aound cast bullets in the .45 Auto.
 
Flash... I am thinking here of the design in any type of bullet similar to Hornady's #3556 in 9mm and #4518 in .45 caliber. If my term was/is a misnomer, I apologize. I cannot recall where it came from. :o

In a cast bullet, Saeco makes the best quasi-Air Force design in .45 caliber. I do not have the mold, but I buy bullets made from it. I am considering purchasing one soon. I would like it better if it had a slightly bigger nose flat.

In 9x19, I do not know who has a suitable mold of that design, though I do have an adequate one for .40 caliber, made by Lyman.

Some years ago, I bought that style of bullet for 9x19 from the National Cast Bullet Company. I have not purchased anthing from them in some time, but the bullets they sent back when were good. I still have some left and have been experimenting with them in my S&W M&P9L. So far, results have been fair, but not on par with Berry's product of similar weight and design.

The kind CQB is interested in we always referred to as "68s", regardless of caliber, after the famous H&G design of that number that I still think is one of the most useful all-aound cast bullets in the .45 Auto.


Yes, you are correct on "Air Force" terminology. If the USAF teams didn't actually start that style, they helped to make it popular - previous thought was on the "shuttlecock" style hollow base wadcutters, especially in 38's. The Dart effect. In 1969, when I first got into bullseye, there were people still shooting 230 gr RN, and a bunch of guys in my club insisted that if you weren't shooting a 185 gr Remington half-jacketed semi-wadcutter with kind of a "scoop" shape to a rounded nose, you weren't at all serious about getting a good score.


In 9mm, I happen to have a Lyman 356402 (9mm, @124 gr) as well as an oddity (I'd have to go out to the shed to actually check the number) but another Lyman relatively the same shape and size, but with a ROUNDED nose on the conical section, not flat-truncated cone. Of course, I can use a roundnose 30-cal top-punch in the sizer/lubricator and achieve the same effect on the flat-nosed one.

In .452, I got lucky thirty years ago and got a Lachmiller that is just about the equal for the H&G#68, but at 215 gr. I shot that for a decade in Bullseye competition, with fantastic results. It was just as good at 4.0 gr Bullseye (a good "midrange") as it was at 7.4 gr of Unique (Whooie !). Again, just a slight rounding from cone to flat-nose. (My coach who was a nationally ranked shooter at Camp Perry in those years used that for his 50-yard bullet. I even cast him some in pure linotype, but Lyman#2 was preferred.)


I'm going to be casting a bunch of stuff in the next week or so. PM me with your addy, and I'll ship you a few to see if that is what you are looking for. I size .357 and .452, lube with good ole Alox/Beeswax. Or do you want them "as cast"?

Flash
 
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