A man was digging through the nieghbors trash at 11:40 P.M. Legal?

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My dog was growling outside the French doors which I was sitting by browsing this wonderful forum.

My mother took the dog for its last day's walk. She noticed a man pilfering through the trash at night. He drove a dented, white, boxy, old van. She was surprised by this and told me.

He doesn't live in our neighborhood. We live in a dead end, cul-du-sac street which is 9 houses from the Mississippi River's levee. It is a very wooded and quiet quiet neighborhood with a supermarket and strip mall across the state highway.

I turned on the security and yard lights. I went out of the house with the dog while checking our property and looking down the street with a flash light and a lit Marlboro. Of course, I was armed and holstered legally. He was gone.

This was a very peculiar situation. Can someone take things out of others trash without permission? We think he took a vacuum.

I am concerned we may be developing prowlers or burglars in the neighborhood.

I know some of you are going to say stay inside, but I wanted to check our property, and see, if the vehicle had left.

I did not plan on confronting him, but I did want him to notice that someone saw him taking trash besides my mother. My family knew I was outside checking the property. I had my cell phone in case I needed to call 911.:eek:

There have been strangers in our neighborhood at night walking down the street at night lately. Like I said, it a dead end, and they weren't entering anyone's home or leaving it seemed. Just seemingly, walking down a dead end aimlessly at night. My father is old and ill and my sister and mother similarly defenseless.
 
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I'd have told him to get lost.
Not only is he not from your area, you have no idea what he was digging for.
Lots of identity thefts are by dumpster divers that specifically look for personal info that folks throw out without shredding.
Phone bills, bank statements, check stubs, and invoices with credit card info just to name a few.
 
I'd have told him to get lost.
Not only is he not from your area, you have no idea what he was digging for.
Lots of identity thefts are by dumpster divers that specifically look for personal info that folks throw out without shredding.
Phone bills, bank statements, check stubs, and invoices with credit card info just to name a few.

Exactly, what I had in mind. Thanks, gunslinger808. A little shooken up. Normally when these things have happened it was my apartment alone, roommates, girlfriends or others present. People I care about, but this is my family.

I home for summer break from architecture school.

For what its worth my avatar name is actually a comic hero. I do hunt, like detective films, and travel between rural and urban areas of LA and MS to hunt. That's where the name comes from and I like my S&W a bunch. Don't want y'all to get the wrong idea.
 
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From what I understand, once the trash hits the can on the sidewalk it's considered abandoned. So, from a legal standpoint, unless the guy was trespassing the cops probably wouldn't do anything about it. I do agree with Gunslinger though, I'd go out and ask the guy what he was doing and motivate him to relocate. And it never hurts to give a call to the local PD and report a suspicious person. BTW, ya oughta shred your personal information before it goes in the trash.....
 
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Thanks, A10.

We do shred our trash. The whole neighborhood would be up, if a cruiser drove up to our house. This area is that quiet.

Don't want to seem like Chicken Little, "The sky is falling!"
 
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A decent paper shredder is a good way to deter these would-be identity thieves.

I agree with Gunslinger. I would have politely told him to take a walk.
 
Nothing wrong with keeping a close eye on your neighborhood and neighbors. Carry a good strong flashlight as well as your piece next time.
I would ask the person if i could help him find something while shining the flashlight directly in his face. Usually people up to no good have a problem with good lighting. Be prepared for anything. and use good situational awareness. Don't over-react but be ready.

Chuck
 
There used to be a guy that rode around on a bicycle the night before trash pickup looking for anything of value. We and the neighbors were concerned at first and kept an eye on him, but he was just looking for things to recycle. He never made a mess, and we never bothered him.
 
It's legal to go through somebody's garbage after it has been put out by the curb. Once it's out there, it's not "yours" anymore. Nasty? Yes. Illegal? No.
Up next to the house I'm not sure. I would think that would be trespassing.

A few years ago, there was a cold murder case solved near where I live...
The investigator got a DNA sample from the suspect by fishing a drinking straw out of a trash can. It was legal, because the man had discarded it.
 
You bring up an interesting point.

Makes you wonder who would really go through the trash anyways.

I was thinking what a nasty and weird guy in the first place especially way too late at night not to be peculiar. He may or may not have had criminal intentions. The time of night really raised my suspicion. Even the dog knew this was not normal.

Interesting thing is we don't have sidewalks here. The garbage was near the street, but really on my neighbors property still because it was about a yard into his lawn. Of course, my neighbors did not notice this event because I am surrounded by elderly, retired people or people with young families. They were all asleep.

I am a night owl by nature. I also happen to be on extended leave of absence from work due to injury from 2 car accidents within two months faulted by two other drivers in both instances. At the time, I was in pajamas preparing to reside for the night with a hot compress on my solarplex. I quickly got dressed and grabbed my tools to investigate. Of course, my injuries make sleeping more difficult.

The van-driving-dumpster-diver did not help with sleep tonight.
 
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Our neighborhood has "pickers" every week.

They don't go through the trash cans. They don't need to. We lay out items of interest and they take them for scrap, referb and resale, whatever.
Funny story - my buddy and I replaced my water heater. We lugged it to the curb and set it down. As we turned to go back into the house a truck pulls up and a guy gets out. He is trying to heft the thing into his truck and we offered to help.

"No thanks. I got's to earn my money!"

It's a guerilla recycling program and I'm all for it!
 
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When I was working construction in a particularly bad neighborhoods for internship hours, the old bathroom and lighting fixtures would disappear in broad day light out peoples driveways and backyards within minutes. The compressor, generator, and other pneumatic tools were being scoped out all day. I can remember one guy even coming in the house to take stuff. He saw what was on my hip and jumped out the window! We were on the second floor. Apparently he climbed up the electrical box behind this home and entered through a small bathroom window! He didn't expect us to be there at night.:D
 
A lot of folks make extra money going through trash left on the street for pickup. People cruise through my neighborhood every trash day looking for stuff; if fact there is quite a competition to see who gets there first so many folks start early, very early. 11:40PM is a little too early to my thinking so I would have called the cops on a suspicious person and let them handle it. The last thing any of us needs is another Trayvon Martin incident and a face to face confrontation might just trigger such an incident. Some of these trash pickers are quite possessive over "their territory".

my .02

Charlie
 
If you keep the trash cans on your property and wheel them out to the street on trash pick up day it's still your stuff until it goes to the public street. We have alleys around here. I hate it. They should be labeled "thieves highway".
 
I never planned on confronting him in an aggressive manner. It was so bizarre I wanted to investigate. Particularly, because it is a dead end street and nearly midnight.

From what I understand, he was probably some addict or unstable person looking for some way to get money.

Trust me, if he had been any trouble, and had he not left after I asked him, "What on Earth are you doing?!" My whole family was ready to call the police.

He was a middle aged man apparently. I can see the comparable situation you are suggesting with that particular past event and its cumbersome proceedings. Remember though my family is witnessing this event from the house as its happening and prior to that while mom is walking the dog. This left guy before I got outside to find him gone. I did see his van and him from the house though.
 
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Did you inform the owner of that house that his rubbish was being examined? Were any other neighbors trash molested? If not, it would seem that this particular house was targeted. Pretty good indication that something is going on with them. What sort of folks are they? If they are crimers, it is possible that this was part of a Police investigation. If there is marital problems, I would suspect that the dumpster diver was a private investigator.
 
Actually, they are relatively new to our block. I really don't know them. Definitely, not a private investigator. That would be giving this guy way too much credit. No, the other neighbor's trash and everything else looked undisturbed.
 
I would look at this as someone gathering evidence. Dope Lords trying to collect on a debt don't have to PROVE anything in court so I doubt that they would go to the trouble. If yours or your neighbor's trash wasn't pilfered, then there is something specific about this house, these people. An ID thief would have grabbed up every body's trash on the street.
 
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