A pair of Miller and Val Griess of Munich shotguns

[bracebeemer]

Here is a pair of Miller and Val Griess of Munich 16 Gauge game guns. They are straight grip splinter fore end 27" barrel 6 lb. numbered 1 and 2. They have beautiful deep chiseled game scene engraving and we're proofed in late 1925 and early 1926. They have all the bells and whistles of a best quality pair. They have a scalloped and reinforced frame, automatic ejectors, side clips (which are machined on the barrel rather than the frame ) intercepting Sears, third fastener, and cocking indicators. I've got quite a few pictures so bear with me. I'll start with gun number one.

Here are more pictures of number one. Did you notice how the screws on the frame are engraved into the game scenes so that they disappear?
Bill

 

[bigwheelzip]

Stunning!! Thanks for sharing.


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[Maddog 521]

Those are beautiful shotguns. What do you suppose the price was the first time they were sold?

 

[schutzen-jager]

nice pair - did you check chamber length , 2 9/16" or 2 5/8" will be a problem if used with 2 3/4" shells -

 

[JJEH]

Very nice looking guns, thanks for sharing.

 

[2152hq]

Beautiful shotguns!
Scalloped actions w/ reinforced frames.
Deep relief work like that takes twice the time and more sometimes as non-relief cutting.
Love that Auerhahn on the bottom of #1 shotgun

 

[Babysitr]

Works of art! thanks for posting pictures.

 

[bracebeemer]

schutzen-Jager., the chambers are 25/8. I shoot RST 21/2" 1 Oz. at 1200 FPS. I was off on the he proof dates. They were 1927 and 1928. Bill

 

[Mrnurse]

Ive got a AYA thats the same quality...Orvis sold them 40 years ago.

 

[Drm50]

Beautiful pair of shotguns. I'm more impressed with the Jack Rabbit on his hind legs than the Auerhahn. I got me a Savage 24 that has a Auerhahn and a fox both.

 

[Ole Joe Clark]

Beautiful firearms, just beautiful!

Have a blessed day,

Leon

 

[OLDSTER]

Stunning "old world" style shotguns. I really like the unique scalloping ( like you pointed out-machined into the barrel instead of the frame ). Congrats on ownership and thanks for posting.

 

[Oracle]

Wow! Thank you for sharing the photos, beautiful guns!

 

[jrm53]

Thanks for showing them they are beautiful, every body likes s/s shot guns those you should insure for a good bit. No telling how manyhours weere spent on making these. Jeff

 

[Buick]

Wheeeweee they are some good looking guns

 

[Dougaz]

I'm speechless!

You must be very proud and thanks for showing us. You don't shoot them do you?

Doug

 

[ABNRGR]

Pair of German Side by Sides

Absolutely magnificent. Makes my Parkers and Superposeds look plain in comparison. Well done!

 

[Pig Hunter]

Those are "best" guns. I normally don't care for that type of engraving, but those are the nicest example of deep relief engraving as I have ever seen. Go out and shoot them a bunch and enjoy them!

 

[H Richard]

You can't buy that quality today, or, most of us couldn't afford it. Those are pieces of Art. Hopefully you do shoot them from time to time.

 

[Absalom]

Great classic guns.

I don't know how much background info you already have or want, but German Hunting Guns has a page about Johann Miller & Valentin Greiss:

Miller & Val. Greiss of Munich – German Hunting Guns

PS: It's thin after 1890, but apparently the firm under different ownership was in business until WW II and as your guns show still employed fine gunsmiths and engravers.