marine2541
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What is the definition of an assult rifle that the government wants to once again ban? I'm confused.
a serious question about assult rifles
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marine2541
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What is the definition of an assult rifle that the government wants to once again ban? I'm confused.
diamonback68
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Things like flash guards, handle grips and over 10 round magazines. Take all those evil things off the gun and it is no longer and assault rifle and therefore ownable and saleable.
john traveler
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The problem with the libs definition of "assault weapon" is that it was conceived to define a category of guns that is now extended to mean a whole LOT more than the original definition. Originally, it was defined as a semiautomatic firearm with a detachable magazine holding more than ten rounds of ammunition. Then it was modified to include such "military" features as pistol grips, folding stocks, bayonet lugs, flash hiders, ad nauseum. Pistol magazines were restricted to 10 rounds. As to what can be expected in this latest AWB, don't be surprised to find that it includes a whole lot of formerly sporting firearms.
cmort666
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They don't want to ban assault rifles. Assault rifles have full auto and or burst capability. NONE of the firearms which Obama et al want to ban his capable of firing in a fully automatic or burst mode.
They want to ban "assault weapons", which are whatever they say they are on any given day.
LuddhaBuddha
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Don't forget the evil barrel shroud, you know.. "the things that go up"
The '94 ban listed several features:
Folding/collapsable stocks
Bayonet lugs
Pistol grips
Detachable magazines
Magazines over 10 round capacity.
Cosmetic stuff mainly.
Basically any military clone was considered too scary for them.
The next ban will be more detailed. Bet on it.
Folding/collapsable stocks
Bayonet lugs
Pistol grips
Detachable magazines
Magazines over 10 round capacity.
Cosmetic stuff mainly.
Basically any military clone was considered too scary for them.
The next ban will be more detailed. Bet on it.
gregintenn
Member
One that goes "bang" when the trigger is depressed.
m657
Member
RE:
...anything that you have, your friend/neighbor/relative may have, or that you think about, want to get, have ever seen, hear about, saw a picture or....
...anything that you have, your friend/neighbor/relative may have, or that you think about, want to get, have ever seen, hear about, saw a picture or....
The definition IS indeed the problem. Many of the gun ban do not want any "automatic" weapons to be legal. That would of course include autoloaders...by definition...which is a weapon that can fire with successive trigger pulls. Now you've included over & under shotguns, too, again by definition.
You can see where this goes, and they do not care about suitablity for sports or targets or hunting. They hate them all and will outlaw them all if given a chance.
Detachable magazines, "heat guards", adjustable stocks, all are fair game, and may be found in many variations on hunting arms and on sporting clays shotguns and on a darn 22 rimfire.
Remember what Diane Feinstein said.." If I had my way, I'd ban them all..turn them in Mr and Mrs America"
You can see where this goes, and they do not care about suitablity for sports or targets or hunting. They hate them all and will outlaw them all if given a chance.
Detachable magazines, "heat guards", adjustable stocks, all are fair game, and may be found in many variations on hunting arms and on sporting clays shotguns and on a darn 22 rimfire.
Remember what Diane Feinstein said.." If I had my way, I'd ban them all..turn them in Mr and Mrs America"
Bob R
US Veteran
If you are really serious about why or what, here is a post I did on a board of *mostly* liberal nurses to explain the whole AWB thing.
http://www.thenurseslounge.net...p?showtopic=6234&hl=
bob
http://www.thenurseslounge.net...p?showtopic=6234&hl=
bob
Text of H.R. 6257 [110th]: Assault Weapons Ban Reauthorization Act of 2008
(b) DEFINITION OF SEMIAUTOMATIC ASSAULT WEAPON- Section 921(a) of title 18, United States Code, is amended by adding after paragraph (29) the following:
‘(30) The term ‘semiautomatic assault weapon’ means--
‘(A) any of the firearms, or copies or duplicates of the firearms in any caliber, known as--
‘(i) Norinco, Mitchell, and Poly Technologies Avtomat Kalashnikovs (all models);
‘(ii) Action Arms Israeli Military Industries UZI and Galil;
‘(iii) Beretta Ar70 (SC-70);
‘(iv) Colt AR-15;
‘(v) Fabrique National FN/FAL, FN/LAR, and FNC;
‘(vi) SWD M-10, M-11, M-11/9, and M-12;
‘(vii) Steyr AUG;
‘(viii) INTRATEC TEC-9, TEC-DC9 and TEC-22; and
‘(ix) revolving cylinder shotguns, such as (or similar to) the Street Sweeper and Striker 12;
‘(B) a semiautomatic rifle that has an ability to accept a detachable magazine and has at least 2 of--
‘(i) a folding or telescoping stock;
‘(ii) a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon;
‘(iii) a bayonet mount;
‘(iv) a flash suppressor or threaded barrel designed to accommodate a flash suppressor; and
‘(v) a grenade launcher;
‘(C) a semiautomatic pistol that has an ability to accept a detachable magazine and has at least 2 of--
‘(i) an ammunition magazine that attaches to the pistol outside of the pistol grip;
‘(ii) a threaded barrel capable of accepting a barrel extender, flash suppressor, forward handgrip, or silencer;
‘(iii) a shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely encircles, the barrel and that permits the shooter to hold the firearm with the nontrigger hand without being burned;
‘(iv) a manufactured weight of 50 ounces or more when the pistol is unloaded; and
‘(v) a semiautomatic version of an automatic firearm; and
‘(D) a semiautomatic shotgun that has at least 2 of--
‘(i) a folding or telescoping stock;
‘(ii) a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon;
‘(iii) a fixed magazine capacity in excess of 5 rounds; and
‘(iv) an ability to accept a detachable magazine.’.
http://www.govtrack.us/congres...t.xpd?bill=h110-6257
(b) DEFINITION OF SEMIAUTOMATIC ASSAULT WEAPON- Section 921(a) of title 18, United States Code, is amended by adding after paragraph (29) the following:
‘(30) The term ‘semiautomatic assault weapon’ means--
‘(A) any of the firearms, or copies or duplicates of the firearms in any caliber, known as--
‘(i) Norinco, Mitchell, and Poly Technologies Avtomat Kalashnikovs (all models);
‘(ii) Action Arms Israeli Military Industries UZI and Galil;
‘(iii) Beretta Ar70 (SC-70);
‘(iv) Colt AR-15;
‘(v) Fabrique National FN/FAL, FN/LAR, and FNC;
‘(vi) SWD M-10, M-11, M-11/9, and M-12;
‘(vii) Steyr AUG;
‘(viii) INTRATEC TEC-9, TEC-DC9 and TEC-22; and
‘(ix) revolving cylinder shotguns, such as (or similar to) the Street Sweeper and Striker 12;
‘(B) a semiautomatic rifle that has an ability to accept a detachable magazine and has at least 2 of--
‘(i) a folding or telescoping stock;
‘(ii) a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon;
‘(iii) a bayonet mount;
‘(iv) a flash suppressor or threaded barrel designed to accommodate a flash suppressor; and
‘(v) a grenade launcher;
‘(C) a semiautomatic pistol that has an ability to accept a detachable magazine and has at least 2 of--
‘(i) an ammunition magazine that attaches to the pistol outside of the pistol grip;
‘(ii) a threaded barrel capable of accepting a barrel extender, flash suppressor, forward handgrip, or silencer;
‘(iii) a shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely encircles, the barrel and that permits the shooter to hold the firearm with the nontrigger hand without being burned;
‘(iv) a manufactured weight of 50 ounces or more when the pistol is unloaded; and
‘(v) a semiautomatic version of an automatic firearm; and
‘(D) a semiautomatic shotgun that has at least 2 of--
‘(i) a folding or telescoping stock;
‘(ii) a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon;
‘(iii) a fixed magazine capacity in excess of 5 rounds; and
‘(iv) an ability to accept a detachable magazine.’.
http://www.govtrack.us/congres...t.xpd?bill=h110-6257
http://www.ag.ca.gov/firearms/
Find here what California "defines" (lists)as "assault weapons" --- absurdity exemplified, as only Californians can do it... (Not bashing our CA members, rather sympathizing...)
Find here what California "defines" (lists)as "assault weapons" --- absurdity exemplified, as only Californians can do it... (Not bashing our CA members, rather sympathizing...)
ParadiseRoad
Member
...THIS one is okay though...
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RobO
Member
It is all total baloney.
m1gunner
US Veteran
They want to clasify all semi-autos as assualt weapons. This includes pistols, and shotties as well.
Of course, the next round of bans will be for "sniper weapons" and that will be anything with optics.
Of course, the next round of bans will be for "sniper weapons" and that will be anything with optics.
Jack Flash
Member
The IZH 35M .22RF target pistol has a "Barrel Shroud" that covers up the barrel and to which the sights are attached. Of course, since it is Russian built, it is probably an Evil gun anyway.
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