AI Chatbot Experience

[Onomea]

Recently I have been experimenting with AI Chatbots, primarily ChatGPT, but also Gemini, Bing, etc. I find them pretty amazing in their capability, as well as useful, amusing, and helpful.

My first experiment was having a chatbot produce an exchange of letters between Ernest Hemingway and F. Scott Fitzgerald wherein Fitzgerald was complaining that Hemingway stole his crackers and Hemingway was denying it. (I thought it funny, anyway.) Next I asked it to produce a movie review by Elmer Keith of Dr. Zhivago because the combination of the two struck me as amusingly incongruous. (Found it: https://smith-wessonforum.com/141899433-post1.html)

I find chatbots handy for more serious purposes, too, like translating the medical jargon that accompanies CT, X-ray, or MRI diagnostic results. It gives you a pretty good idea of what is going on prior to talking to your doctor.

Or, in another useful example, my son was telling me about how he had a plumbing issue in his apartment, and had taken something (a sink, a garbage disposal, etc?) apart, and did not know what some of the internal pieces were, or how to reinstall them properly. So he took a photo of the pieces and uploaded the photo to the chatbot, explained what he was trying to do, and asked what they were. The chatbot explained to him what they were and how to reinstall them properly

Another example closer to our forums interests is my recent inquiry into steel cased ammo vs brass cased: I had gotten a great deal on a case of 9mm and when it showed up I realized it was steel cased. Asking the chatbot several questions, I learned that steel cased ammo is considered not as reliable as brass because the steel does not expand like brass and can cause FTFs. Plus, steel corrodes.

I noticed the ammo was zinc coated, so asked about that. The chatbot explained that was good as zinc inhibits corrosion. The chatbot asked what I was going to use the ammo for. I explained range practice as I used other, better, SD ammo for carry, that I'd bought the steel cased ammo because it was cheap. The chatbot said for range use it was a reasonable choice.

Chatbots can also generate images from verbal directions. Long ago I saw a cartoon in which a guy is behind prison bars and his accountant is visiting him. The accountant says, "Well, at least we achieved your goal of you paying no taxes." I have not been able to find that cartoon again, so I asked ChatGPT this morning to generate it:



Are any of you also using AI chatbots, either for amusement or more serious purposes, and, if so, how is your experience?

 

[TX-Dennis]

I've only used it for the very nonserious purpose of creating silly images like these . . .

 

[Onomea]

TX-Dennis, those are fun. Thanks for the response.

I am kinda surprised that no one else has responded. It, AI chabots, is an an amazing technology.

Free, too, if you use it lightly.

i'll also note that it seamlessly switches between languages. E.g., Japanese and English.

It's... amazing. I encourage you folks who haven't tried it, to give it a try.

 

[Jon651]

My only concern with using online AI for any serious purpose is that they draw their information from whatever is published on the internet - and we all know just how absolutely reliable everything on the internet is... There is a lot of information out there that can be easily considered "fake news", "alternate facts", etc. and the problem with AI is that they never cite their sources, especially when it comes to interpretation of a complex concept.

As more than a few lazy lawyers have already found out, NEVER USE AI to either write a brief or file an appeal!

 

[Walkin Horse]

I sometimes use AI to write employee evaluations. The mechanical company I work for has a lot of contracts to build AI data centers. We have invested a lot in equipment and manpower to build the cooling systems for these centers.

 

[tlawler]

Recently I have been experimenting with AI Chatbots, primarily ChatGPT, but also Gemini, Bing, etc. I find them pretty amazing in their capability, as well as useful, amusing, and helpful.

My first experiment was having a chatbot produce an exchange of letters between Ernest Hemingway and F. Scott Fitzgerald wherein Fitzgerald was complaining that Hemingway stole his crackers and Hemingway was denying it. (I thought it funny, anyway.) Next I asked it to produce a movie review by Elmer Keith of Dr. Zhivago because the combination of the two struck me as amusingly incongruous. (Found it: https://smith-wessonforum.com/141899433-post1.html)

I find chatbots handy for more serious purposes, too, like translating the medical jargon that accompanies CT, X-ray, or MRI diagnostic results. It gives you a pretty good idea of what is going on prior to talking to your doctor.

Or, in another useful example, my son was telling me about how he had a plumbing issue in his apartment, and had taken something (a sink, a garbage disposal, etc?) apart, and did not know what some of the internal pieces were, or how to reinstall them properly. So he took a photo of the pieces and uploaded the photo to the chatbot, explained what he was trying to do, and asked what they were. The chatbot explained to him what they were and how to reinstall them properly

Another example closer to our forums interests is my recent inquiry into steel cased ammo vs brass cased: I had gotten a great deal on a case of 9mm and when it showed up I realized it was steel cased. Asking the chatbot several questions, I learned that steel cased ammo is considered not as reliable as brass because the steel does not expand like brass and can cause FTFs. Plus, steel corrodes.

I noticed the ammo was zinc coated, so asked about that. The chatbot explained that was good as zinc inhibits corrosion. The chatbot asked what I was going to use the ammo for. I explained range practice as I used other, better, SD ammo for carry, that I'd bought the steel cased ammo because it was cheap. The chatbot said for range use it was a reasonable choice.

Chatbots can also generate images from verbal directions. Long ago I saw a cartoon in which a guy is behind prison bars and his accountant is visiting him. The accountant says, "Well, at least we achieved your goal of you paying no taxes." I have not been able to find that cartoon again, so I asked ChatGPT this morning to generate it:



Are any of you also using AI chatbots, either for amusement or more serious purposes, and, if so, how is your experience?

I haven’t used it yet, I guess I’m a little intimidated by it, but mrs tlawler has taken our partially completed house and done a couple of concept pictures of how she wants it to look.

I sometimes use AI to write employee evaluations. The mechanical company I work for has a lot of contracts to build AI data centers. We have invested a lot in equipment and manpower to build the cooling systems for these centers.

Walkin Horse, which AI data centers are you working on? My company is doing the temporary cooling at xAI in Memphis until their central plant is ready. Right now, we’ve got about 80,000 tons of air cooled chillers parked in back. It’s going to be interesting keeping them online when summer hits. Lots of air recirculation. The central plant they are building has 32x1000 ton York YMCsquared mag bearing machines. Quite an impressive sight seeing the two rows of 16! I wish I could have gotten a picture of it when I was there. And to add to that, Elon is building an even larger AI data center in that same area. He is literally going to need a medium sized nuke plant and to divert the Mississippi River to provide the power and cooling he will need once they switch over to the water cooled machines. Here’s a aerial picture of it that I pulled off a local Memphis news website, as we were strictly prohibited from taking pictures while onsite.

 

[venomballistics]

I've made use of AI for a few things.
Some of my hobbies take me down some wild technical rabbit holes where I used to have to hack for hours to find a route to a desirable result.
AI can knock out a lot of that tedious brain damage, delivering results faster

 

[venomballistics]

I haven’t used it yet, I guess I’m a little intimidated by it, but mrs tlawler has taken our partially completed house and done a couple of concept pictures of how she wants it to look.



Walkin Horse, which AI data centers are you working on? My company is doing the temporary cooling at xAI in Memphis until their central plant is ready. Right now, we’ve got about 80,000 tons of air cooled chillers parked in back. It’s going to be interesting keeping them online when summer hits. Lots of air recirculation. The central plant they are building has 32x1000 ton York YMCsquared mag bearing machines. Quite an impressive sight seeing the two rows of 16! I wish I could have gotten a picture of it when I was there. And to add to that, Elon is building an even larger AI data center in that same area. He is literally going to need a medium sized nuke plant and to divert the Mississippi River to provide the power and cooling he will need once they switch over to the water cooled machines. Here’s a aerial picture of it that I pulled off a local Memphis news website, as we were strictly prohibited from taking pictures while onsite.

Google makes that look like a pocket calculator

 

[venomballistics]

This is an old picture of a data center.
It's since grown by 2 more buildings.
There's 4 more sites, two are slated to dwarf this one.
Cooling is mixed method, using both forced air and water.
The scale of some of the equipment is vulgar
24" diameter control valves and electrical components one would expect to see in a metro area power station.
AI? Yeah... Those are the double secret squirrel buildings that go by cool code names that nobody seems to remember an hour after dealing with any of them.

 

[Krogen]

As more than a few lazy lawyers have already found out, NEVER USE AI to either write a brief or file an appeal!

Hah hah! A number of years ago I served on the jury for a civil case. It was a circus to begin with, but then an attorney attempted to quote Wikipedia. The judge came unglued.

 

[smoothshooter]

TX-Dennis, those are fun. Thanks for the response.

I am kinda surprised that no one else has responded. It, AI chabots, is an an amazing technology.

Free, too, if you use it lightly.

i'll also note that it seamlessly switches between languages. E.g., Japanese and English.

It's... amazing. I encourage you folks who haven't tried it, to give it a try.

I fear it will quickly become our best friend and worst enemy. We are joyfully riding our canoes to on a whitewater river to the cataclysmic waterfalls. Too late to exit now. We will not recognize how the world will have changed on us in two years. All governments will use it against their citizens. Most will gladly give any personal rights they have for longer lives because of the acceleration of medical technology. That will include most of us here.
Enjoy your freedoms and guns, as much as you can. NOW.
A I will not be a gun owner’s friend. Or like your movements and speech un-monitored.
Okay, experts, am I wrong?

 

[smoothshooter]

TX-Dennis, those are fun. Thanks for the response.

I am kinda surprised that no one else has responded. It, AI chabots, is an an amazing technology.

Free, too, if you use it lightly.

i'll also note that it seamlessly switches between languages. E.g., Japanese and English.

It's... amazing. I encourage you folks who haven't tried it, to give it a try.

I fear it will quickly become our best friend and worst enemy. We are joyfully riding our canoes to on a whitewater river to the cataclysmic waterfalls. Too late to exit now. We will not recognize how the world will have changed on us in two years. All governments will use it against their citizens. Most will gladly give any personal rights they have for longer lives because of the acceleration of medical technology. That will include most of us here.
Enjoy your freedoms and guns, as much as you can. NOW.
A I will not be a gun owner’s friend. Or like your movements and speech un-monitored.
Okay, experts, am I wrong?

 

[Rustyt1953]

The boys and I have fun with AI.

We ain't a feared atall.

 

[tlawler]

This is an old picture of a data center.
It's since grown by 2 more buildings.
There's 4 more sites, two are slated to dwarf this one.
Cooling is mixed method, using both forced air and water.
The scale of some of the equipment is vulgar
24" diameter control valves and electrical components one would expect to see in a metro area power station.
AI? Yeah... Those are the double secret squirrel buildings that go by cool code names that nobody seems to remember an hour after dealing with any of them.

The Memphis xAI site is presently the largest super computer in the world. It’s running a nominal rack density of 125 KW per rack and will be in excess of 1000 racks when complete. The power density of a standard data center rack is usually 35 to 40 KW. The header pipes you see running along the back side of the chiller farm are 48”. Due to the power density, none of the GPU’s are air cooled. Everything is liquid cooled. The subsequent facility Musk is building nearby is slated to be about 1.5x the size of Colossus (Elon’s pet name for this project). We are expected to provide 240 five hundred ton air cooled chillers for the next project. At xAI, we presently have about 165. That’s an older picture showing about 140 or so plus a few that were outside the frame. They had to build another parking lot for our chiller repair yard and spares. Once a chiller loses more than one compressor, it gets yanked out and another one takes its place. They will allow 75% capacity (3 out of 4 compressors) as long as we can get it back on line within a day or so. Otherwise, out it comes and moved to the laydown yard where a compressor can be changed out. They are staggered and use victaulic hose connections and trystar camlock 4 aught electrical cables and it takes our crew about an hour to pull one out and slip another in its place. We have a crew of 16 that stay onsite in 12 hour shifts and the local branches of JCI, Daikin, Trane, and Carrier all stay very busy, as well as 3 local mechanicals we utilize as well. Country wide, my company has 14 senior chiller mechanics, of which I’m one, and we’ve all done turns out there for 7 day x 12 hour stretches. The pay and incentives to go are great, but it is grueling. Last summer, everything was being put into place, testing, repositioning, etc…but no real load. Through the winter and spring, we didn’t have to go back out there, it was being handled by the onsite crews after we got everything dialed in. But now with increasing temperatures and under full load, well, it’s gonna be interesting! Everything is monitored by a remote operations center and it generates on average, about 50 emails per day from that site alone.

This thing is on a whole nother level. I think he named it Colossus with a purpose in mind. Any Sci-Fi buffs know where that name comes from? Yeah…it’s scary!

Man, I can’t wait to retire!

 

[venomballistics]

Google figured out that it's better to dial down the performance a bit and compensate with acreage.
A farm full of bleeding edge processing making heat is a great way to make a lot of down time.
Musk's project is going to be spectacular in the short game, long game is sketchy

 

[Muss Muggins]

The boys and I have fun with AI.

We ain't a feared atall.

My wife got all unhappy when I put her head on Rihanna's body . . .

 

[Walkin Horse]

The Memphis xAI site is presently the largest super computer in the world. It’s running a nominal rack density of 125 KW per rack and will be in excess of 1000 racks when complete. The power density of a standard data center rack is usually 35 to 40 KW. The header pipes you see running along the back side of the chiller farm are 48”. Due to the power density, none of the GPU’s are air cooled. Everything is liquid cooled. The subsequent facility Musk is building nearby is slated to be about 1.5x the size of Colossus (Elon’s pet name for this project). We are expected to provide 240 five hundred ton air cooled chillers for the next project. At xAI, we presently have about 165. That’s an older picture showing about 140 or so plus a few that were outside the frame. They had to build another parking lot for our chiller repair yard and spares. Once a chiller loses more than one compressor, it gets yanked out and another one takes its place. They will allow 75% capacity (3 out of 4 compressors) as long as we can get it back on line within a day or so. Otherwise, out it comes and moved to the laydown yard where a compressor can be changed out. They are staggered and use victaulic hose connections and trystar camlock 4 aught electrical cables and it takes our crew about an hour to pull one out and slip another in its place. We have a crew of 16 that stay onsite in 12 hour shifts and the local branches of JCI, Daikin, Trane, and Carrier all stay very busy, as well as 3 local mechanicals we utilize as well. Country wide, my company has 14 senior chiller mechanics, of which I’m one, and we’ve all done turns out there for 7 day x 12 hour stretches. The pay and incentives to go are great, but it is grueling. Last summer, everything was being put into place, testing, repositioning, etc…but no real load. Through the winter and spring, we didn’t have to go back out there, it was being handled by the onsite crews after we got everything dialed in. But now with increasing temperatures and under full load, well, it’s gonna be interesting! Everything is monitored by a remote operations center and it generates on average, about 50 emails per day from that site alone.

This thing is on a whole nother level. I think he named it Colossus with a purpose in mind. Any Sci-Fi buffs know where that name comes from? Yeah…it’s scary!

Man, I can’t wait to retire!

I’m on the pipe fabrication end of it. I have no idea what the KW usage is but I will ask. We are fabbing 20” pipe mains down to 8” acc connections. What I have seen change is the pipe. 6 years ago at 9 FB buildings it was all double wall pvc pipe and copper. We have done some centers that have all copper refrigerant pipe. Now the trend is steel pipe with braided hose to the servers. Some skids we are building have carbon pipe from the chiller to a heat exchanger with stainless going to the equipment. I’ve heard we have an Amazon plant that will be all Victaulic stainless steel.
This area of Va is described by the media as the largest data center park in the country, because of the internet hub from overseas and DC. I hope the work holds up at least another 4 years until I retire. Right now I have 57 welders,fitters and helpers working 60 hours a week.

 

[okiegtrider]

I fear it will quickly become our best friend and worst enemy. We are joyfully riding our canoes to on a whitewater river to the cataclysmic waterfalls. Too late to exit now. We will not recognize how the world will have changed on us in two years. All governments will use it against their citizens. Most will gladly give any personal rights they have for longer lives because of the acceleration of medical technology. That will include most of us here.
Enjoy your freedoms and guns, as much as you can. NOW.
A I will not be a gun owner’s friend. Or like your movements and speech un-monitored.
Okay, experts, am I wrong?

By golly, that ai won't get me!

 

[Smoke]

 

[swsig]

I asked an AI program to provide a brief description of the Smith & Wesson Forum, and this is its response:

"The Smith & Wesson Forum is an internet website where hundreds of men over 60 (and at least one fearless woman) post complaints about current events and modern technology, and extoll the virtues of how things used to be done. Occasionally, they will post about firearms."