NICKTHEFISH
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I did it too when i went to Arkansas from Florida. It was seemless!
Air travel with the Shield. Easier than I thought
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incavulator
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Almost seemless...recently, one airline (AA, I think) told me I was NOT allowed to have ammo stored in magazines. They showed me THEIR policy (not TSA's) stating this. Shame on me for assuming the TSA policy was common across airlines. Allegedly, they don't like the rounds touching one another (might cause a spark? 
). They let me remove the ammo, put it in a bag, and I had someone come back to the airport to pick it up later. I then bought more when I reached my destination. They were nice about it, but it was inconvenient.
In addition, on two recent flights, once I declared a firearm, I was told I had to wait for 10-20 minutes at the check-in counter until I was, "released." Apparently, they wanted me to stay there in case someone (TSA presumably) needed to get into the locked gun case. On a third flight, I was walked to the TSA screening room and was told to wait while the agent rummaged through my bag. Again, they were nice, but it was inconvenient and added about 20 minutes to my pre-flight journey.
After these experiences, I'm going back to packing my ammo in the original factory boxes, and I'm going to make sure I allow myself an extra 20 minutes.
Someone said they experienced check-in agents that were familiar with firearms. That's completely the opposite of my experience. The last one asked me 3 times if my gun case had a TSA lock on it. After explaining that was not what the policy stated, I finally pointed to the placard posted right on the front of the kiosk we were standing in front of that stated the container was to be locked and the owner was supposed to be the only one with the key or combination.
Seemless? Not quite. Inconvenient? Somewhat. Unfortunate? Yes. But still worth it, in my opinion. I guess it's just the price we pay for exercising our rights.
). They let me remove the ammo, put it in a bag, and I had someone come back to the airport to pick it up later. I then bought more when I reached my destination. They were nice about it, but it was inconvenient.In addition, on two recent flights, once I declared a firearm, I was told I had to wait for 10-20 minutes at the check-in counter until I was, "released." Apparently, they wanted me to stay there in case someone (TSA presumably) needed to get into the locked gun case. On a third flight, I was walked to the TSA screening room and was told to wait while the agent rummaged through my bag. Again, they were nice, but it was inconvenient and added about 20 minutes to my pre-flight journey.
After these experiences, I'm going back to packing my ammo in the original factory boxes, and I'm going to make sure I allow myself an extra 20 minutes.
Someone said they experienced check-in agents that were familiar with firearms. That's completely the opposite of my experience. The last one asked me 3 times if my gun case had a TSA lock on it. After explaining that was not what the policy stated, I finally pointed to the placard posted right on the front of the kiosk we were standing in front of that stated the container was to be locked and the owner was supposed to be the only one with the key or combination.
Seemless? Not quite. Inconvenient? Somewhat. Unfortunate? Yes. But still worth it, in my opinion. I guess it's just the price we pay for exercising our rights.
SMMAssociates
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Model39:
I wouldn't trust NYC for anything, whether it's HR218/LEOSA, or about anything else... But (IANAL) you should be OK. OTOH, FOPA is a Federal matter, as is LEOSA, and expecting them to honor any Federal law is iffy
....
incavulator:
I'm not sure any major carrier would let you carry loaded magazines, or loose ammunition, even though the former seems to be fine with the TSA.
Don't forget that this is "theater", not Security, and making felons out of Law Abiding Citizens seem to be the goal of many people.
I can understand "unloaded", if one ignores the concept that nobody should touch that gun while it's in the airport, but the rest of it is just silly. Presuming that a magazine will jump into the mag well, and the gun will magically chamber a round and start spraying the cargo hold is just an indication of extreme hoplophobia....
I do believe that all carriers that don't want loaded magazines insists on "factory" boxes or reloader's boxes, though.
Guess the point there is to both visit the TSA web site and that of the air carrier you're using, and follow the most restrictive rule. Meantime, it's nice to carry a copy of the web site regs, and not to be shy about asking for a supervisor if there are any problems.
(I've never been delayed by more than a couple minutes, but I do try to be early. Makes the wife crazy when I have to declare in the first place.)
Sidebar: Hoplophobes in control.... When OH's new CHL law took effect in 2004, the BMV all but forced it's franchisees to post their facilities. (BMV local offices are not state employees - just paper pushers hired/paid by whoever owns the business. Just like a McD's....) The franchisees were told that if they didn't post, they'd lose their franchise. (LOTS of money there
.)
Those signs, then (OH has some seriously goofy rules), made it a misdemeanor to ignore the sign. No security around here, and little chance of prosecution.
A few years later, the BMV pushed the legislature into making their franchises "enumerated" locations. Places where posting is required by law, and ignoring the sign is a FELONY. Still no Security, of course....
Someday....
Regards,
I wouldn't trust NYC for anything, whether it's HR218/LEOSA, or about anything else... But (IANAL) you should be OK. OTOH, FOPA is a Federal matter, as is LEOSA, and expecting them to honor any Federal law is iffy
....incavulator:
I'm not sure any major carrier would let you carry loaded magazines, or loose ammunition, even though the former seems to be fine with the TSA.
Don't forget that this is "theater", not Security, and making felons out of Law Abiding Citizens seem to be the goal of many people.
I can understand "unloaded", if one ignores the concept that nobody should touch that gun while it's in the airport, but the rest of it is just silly. Presuming that a magazine will jump into the mag well, and the gun will magically chamber a round and start spraying the cargo hold is just an indication of extreme hoplophobia....
I do believe that all carriers that don't want loaded magazines insists on "factory" boxes or reloader's boxes, though.
Guess the point there is to both visit the TSA web site and that of the air carrier you're using, and follow the most restrictive rule. Meantime, it's nice to carry a copy of the web site regs, and not to be shy about asking for a supervisor if there are any problems.
(I've never been delayed by more than a couple minutes, but I do try to be early. Makes the wife crazy when I have to declare in the first place.)
Sidebar: Hoplophobes in control.... When OH's new CHL law took effect in 2004, the BMV all but forced it's franchisees to post their facilities. (BMV local offices are not state employees - just paper pushers hired/paid by whoever owns the business. Just like a McD's....) The franchisees were told that if they didn't post, they'd lose their franchise. (LOTS of money there
.)Those signs, then (OH has some seriously goofy rules), made it a misdemeanor to ignore the sign. No security around here, and little chance of prosecution.
A few years later, the BMV pushed the legislature into making their franchises "enumerated" locations. Places where posting is required by law, and ignoring the sign is a FELONY. Still no Security, of course....
Someday....
Regards,
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