Alpha, Bravo, Charile. Military Alphabet Code and LEO Code

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The Army taught us the alphabet and number codes and we were told to strickly stick to it. I listen to the scanner and hear LEO's using words like, "Apple, Mary, Buddy" and pretty much what comes to their mind when reading off the license plate number. Just wonder why they don't use the military code. Seems like the dispatchers would appreciate it when they are writing down the letters and numbers.

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2: Too
3: Tree
4: Fower

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We stuck pretty close to the military style but I've been retired for 15 yrs. so anything may have happened in the interum.
 
Twenty-two years in the Air Force, I can do the military phonetic alphabet in my sleep. When I got into civilian LE they use an LE phonetic alphabet based on first names, Adam, Boy, Charles, David, Edward, etc. When I first signed on I about drove the Dispatchers crazy, except for one who had some military time. I still have to be careful and double check my civilian cheat sheet on occassion and I still relaps to the Military version if I get in a hurry or........ get excited.......I'm old now so I don't get excited very often any more.
 
Probably has to do with utility-the military phonetic alphabet was designed for NATO-the universal language for NATO is English. So you can call for fire from a Dutch battery, for example.
Police of course are dealing with local dialects-and they use what will work-as long as they are understood-then its OK.
 
We used the first name system in Wyoming in the 60's and 70's.
Don't know what they use now.
 
I never understood the inconsistency from system to system. When I listened to police calls 20-30 years ago I could hear a mix of phonetic codes. I always thought that some LE agencies just had a severe "not invented here" problem and blew off what everybody already knew just so they could insist on their own "improved" system.

There was probably a command staff officer in every agency who drove a desk and was in charge of communication protocol. He wouldn't have been doing his job if he didn't mess with standards.

At least they never used plant codes.

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Sorry, but former military guys sound like dorks on the police radios when they insist on retaining military phonetic expressions and jargon. You're not in the military anymore. Adopt to the new culture, code and jargon. There's nothing wrong with "Adam" instead of "Alpha".

And speaking of jargon, the NIMS system advocates talking like a normal person. Ten codes are a thing of the past.

When I got into civilian LE they use an LE phonetic alphabet based on first names, Adam, Boy, Charles, David, Edward, etc.

First names? Boy? Tarzan, Jane Cheetah....X-ray.....Zebra. I use "Xylophone" for X but people keep confusing it for Z!
 
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I guess it all depends upon if you served in the military or not. It was a standard the military used, all branches, to have a universal and common protocol amongst the branches and our allies. Not so the LE community. It is/was a "ours is better" mind-set. But, that was all a long time ago.....both the military and LE. Frankly, I don't care what any of them use now.
 
Some agencies do use the military phonetic alphabet. 10-codes, other 'codes' and 'signals' can vary greatly from state to state. At the agency I retired from, we did not use '10-4' at all. Even now when I hear it on the scanner, to me, it sounds strange and amateurish, but I know it is second nature to most cops, and to them it sound professional.

We all get used to the our own agency's radio protocols, and when we hear radio traffic that is different, we find it odd, when someone else would find what we are used to is equally odd.

Where I worked a 'code' represented the manner in which your vehicle was operated ie: Code one, normal. Code 2, emergency lights only, Code 3, lights and siren. In Wyoming, codes mostly denote locations.

There are other differences from state to state, for instance, the way a mobile unit calls in to dispatch. How we did it in Oklahoma is the complete opposite of Wyoming. I've never gotten used to it.

What I find irritating at times, is the fact that most cop movies and TV shows are set in California. Therefore, most civilians think all police agencies are dispatched by California penal codes.

And to this day, I have never heard a police officer in the flesh call a suspect a 'perp'. If I did I'd probably laugh my butt off.
 
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Spend two weeks in the field as a radio operator then come in and put your reserve badge on and strap into a patrol car. The dispatchers, for the most part, were good sports about it.
 
Sorry, but former military guys sound like dorks on the police radios when they insist on retaining military phonetic expressions and jargon. You're not in the military anymore. Adopt to the new culture, code and jargon. There's nothing wrong with "Adam" instead of "Alpha".

And speaking of jargon, the NIMS system advocates talking like a normal person. Ten codes are a thing of the past.



First names? Boy? Tarzan, Jane Cheetah....X-ray.....Zebra. I use "Xylophone" for X but people keep confusing it for Z!

That would be OK if they didn't always have to add...A as in Adam...B as in boy C...as in...and on and on. It's hard to believe (I know) but the military method is much simpler.
 
Phonetics on a PD channel was always Adam, Baker, Charley, David,,,,when I dispatched. Never was the Military style used. It's just the way it was done and the way it was passed along. That was 2 different dept's and a 911 center.

When I first started dispatching, 10-codes were in use. Every Dept. had their own variation of what each meant, though a few were common meaning between dept's.
The City PD had the greatest use of them,,something like a total of 60 separate 10-codes.
A few were rarely used,,some were administrative use. The others were constant & common occurance and became your language.
It was easy to dispatch using nothing but 10-codes, car numbers, street names & numbers, ect.
With 1 dispatcher to a primary dispatch channel (2 primarys) each loaded w/ 50+ cars,,you needed all the short cuts for air time you could get.
The system worked very well though. Kind of an organized chaos.

Then they went to 'plain language' dispatch when the change over to 911 went into effect. Gone were the 'CR Cards',,the card track and card boxes, time stamps, ect.
All on a computer key board now and everything stretched out in unsimplified plain language. Since the 'event types' (type of call) was in a plain language on the computer it was to be dispatched that way.

More than a couple dispatchers got the nick-name of 'story lady' for their wordy way over the air when we went to plain language.
..and later on,,every once in a while a veteran Officer made a newer dispatcher freeze by calling out w/a plate #, a location and a rapid string of 10-codes no one's used in the last 10 years..


No one likes to change
But it all worked out though.
 
Some years ago in a GA agency, we were mixed between the military system users and the "A as in Adam crowd". It didn't seem to fall along military lines; although, all the military guys were pretty consistent. I and my FTO who said to me "You will always use the phonetic alphabet" were both non-military. Many of the non-phonetic alphabet guys didn't use a system. They just made up as they went and said whatever came to mind. Sometimes m was Mary, sometimes Mark, or maybe Magnolia. I think it was the lack of uniformity that drove my FTO nuts and made him demand the other system from me. Just don't try to use it with the average customer service rep, which I recently tried when we had a bad connection and I thought it would help. It just ratcheted up the confusion level.
 
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