Amateur Radio rabbit hole

ACORN

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I've always loved radio.
Commercial AM, FM, SW, CB etc.
I bought and sold my Yaesu Ft60r here but wish I hadn't.
I don't have my ticket yet so all I did was occasionally listen to some local nets.
For some reason I got the itch again but didn't want to spend $200 to replace it, to possibly just have it gather dust.
Amazon has a new version of the entry level UV5R, the GT5R that has done away with the spurious harmonics everyone complained about.
As well as the transmit feature is limited to UHF and VHF frequencies.
That should satisfy the higher grade licensees.
The kicker is the Black Friday special price is a measly $22(ish) with free shipping.
I figured some here might be interested.
If I don't get my Tech ticket I'd rather have wasted $20 rather than $200.
I know the range is limited but I can live with that for now.
To those unaware you can listen to Amateur Radio but to transmit on the ham frequencies you must have a license.
 
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I had a cheap "shortwave" radio in the early to mid 60s that I used to listen to late at night. It had a ear piece so my parents did not know I was not sleeping.

One of the people I met in high school had a serious Ham father. He was a electronic engineer and of course built or modified a lot of his equipment.

My friend Bob knew enough about the equipment and on occasions when no adults were in the house we would illegally use that equipment. This was the old days and Bob got pretty good at using Morse code on the frequencies that demanded it.
 
To those unaware you can listen to Amateur Radio but to transmit on the ham frequencies you must have a license.

So all of the truckers have licenses? I have kinda wondered about that. I have been mulling getting something and heard about Uniden. Not sure of the differences. What kind of radio should I have for the doom and gloom end of the world possibilities?
 
My brother was a paraglider pilot. He belonged to the U.S. Hang Glider Association. The USHGA has a license for all of their members. If I recall correctly, they are limited to one or 2 frequencies. He went and got his own license anyway. We found that for hunting, the radios worked much better than GMRS radios. Find a quiet frequency, limit it to essential communication and you were good to go. Plus, we could tune into the weather stations and get the most accurate reports.
 
So all of the truckers have licenses? I have kinda wondered about that. I have been mulling getting something and heard about Uniden. Not sure of the differences. What kind of radio should I have for the doom and gloom end of the world possibilities?

Most truckers run CB band. Different frequencies and power limits.
 
I know I've been away from the ham game for over 25 years, but $22 for a dual band handheld seems too good to be true.
 
I received my first (Novice) license in 1958, and my Extra class license in 1978. I started building kit radios in 1955, when I was 12 YO. I operate 100% Morse code but I listen to the voice guys. My interest in electronics led to a degree in physics and a career working as a distribution engineer for a power company. I am now 80 YO and still building kits. A lot of change in the decades since I started. Very few young people are interested in the amateur radio game and most of them are only interested in digital communications. Most of the hams I work on the air are about my age.

73,
Rick
 
Most truckers run CB band. Different frequencies and power limits.

exactly. Just like your computers WIFI ... that's digital radio transmission ... without a license.
A bit closer to the fringe is 5.8ghz video as used in FPV.
You're legal up to 25 mW, beyond that, you need a license.
 
When I was 5, my parents frequently took me with them to visit their friends. The father and 17-year-old son were both HAM radio operators: K5-KWB and K5-KVE. Listening to them talk over the radio taught me the phonetic alphabet (similar, if not identical, to the military version).

Fast forward to my 2nd year in the USAF - in a 20-man seismic detachment in the jungles on Mindanao, PI. 500 miles from the nearest military institution, we were entirely self-sufficient. And my group (who operated the seismic equipment, analyzed the data and reported the findings to Langley, VA) had to operate the MARS radio and crypto gear 24-7-365.

Operating the MARS radio was particularly interesting. During the night shifts (after 9 pm), we'd raise a California HAM radio operator (when the propagation permitted) who would, in turn, make a long-distance call to the home of our detachment troopers. This was the only way we could talk to "home," other than snail mail. But those calls were (a) being listened to by every MARS operator in the entire SEA MARS network (Viet Nam, Thailand, the Philippines, Okinawa, Japan, etc.), and (b) required the call participants to say "over" after making a comment - to allow the MARS and HAM operators to activate/deactivate their respective microphone's key. (These were in the days before VOX - voice operated - microphones were used in the military. Voice transmission only occurred while the microphone button was being pressed - "keyed" in radio slang. And similarly, the mic had to be un-keyed to receive the other party's transmission) This made for awkward/cumbersome conversations, which frequently were humorous. [And was the source of "WFT-over" military slang.]

There was nothing funnier listening to our chubby, 35-year-old "supply" staff sergeant's conversation with his Portland, Oregon-based mom: "I love you mom - over." "I love you, too son - over." "Roger on the love you mom - over."

Of course, our MARS capabilities came in handy on occasion. For instance, we once had to MARS our sister detachment (500 miles north, at Clark AFB) to send down toilet paper on the next bi-weekly C-47 supply run (all 20 of us were concurrently suffering a bout of dysentery). Sympathetic MARS operators in 15 different SEA locations shipped us cases of TP in response to our plea.

In February 1971, our seismic instruments detected a major earthquake in Southern California (the San Fernando Valley quake) - and detected it 20 minutes after the earthquake actually occurred. [The equipment at each of our 20-some-odd seismic locations scattered around the globe was sensitive enough to detect basically any earthquake that occurred anywhere in the world. When multiple locations reported the same event, computers operated by our "Head Shed" guys at Langley could triangulate the earthquake's location to a surface area the size of a football field, and within 100 yards in depth. But I digress.] We immediately jumped on the MARS radio and initiated HAM-operator long-distance calls to SoCal for our 3 comrades whose families lived there. Now understand...news of the quake had not yet been broadcast in SEA (senior military leadership had chosen to suppress this news for "morale" reasons), so the SEA MARS operators were REALLY" curious how we knew of it. Since our "cover story" was that we were a weather station (our real mission was top secret, and we all had TS-Crypto clearances), we weren't permitted to explain just how we knew there was a quake. Suffice it to say, once news of the quake was broadcast over the SEA MARS and AFRVN radio networks, the long-distance phone lines were jammed with worried troopers trying to find out if mom and dad, or the wife and kids, were OK.

Kinda sad, actually, to know that the roles were reversed: the troops actually IN harm's way were worried about the safety of their state-side kin.

Interesting times.
 
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When I was 5, my parents frequently took me with them to visit their friends. The father and 17-year-old son were both HAM radio operators: K5-KWB and K5-KVE. Listening to them talk over the radio taught me the phonetic alphabet (similar, if not identical, to the military version).

Fast forward to my 2nd year in the USAF - in a 20-man seismic detachment in the jungles on Mindanao, PI. 500 miles from the nearest military institution, we were entirely self-sufficient. And my group (who operated the seismic equipment, analyzed the data and reported the findings to Langley, VA) had to operate the MARS radio and crypto gear 24-7-365.

Operating the MARS radio was particularly interesting. During the night shifts (after 9 pm), we'd raise a California HAM radio operator (when the propagation permitted) who would, in turn, make a long-distance call to the home of our detachment troopers. This was the only way we could talk to "home," other than snail mail. But those calls were (a) being listened to by every MARS operator in the entire SEA MARS network (Viet Nam, Thailand, the Philippines, Okinawa, Japan, etc.), and (b) required the call participants to say "over" after making a comment - to allow the MARS and HAM operators to activate/deactivate their respective microphone's key. (These were in the days before VOX - voice operated - microphones were used in the military. Voice transmission only occurred while the microphone button was being pressed - "keyed" in radio slang. And similarly, the mic had to be un-keyed to receive the other party's transmission) This made for awkward/cumbersome conversations, which frequently were humorous. [And was the source of "WFT-over" military slang.]

There was nothing funnier listening to our chubby, 35-year-old "supply" staff sergeant's conversation with his Portland, Oregon-based mom: "I love you mom - over." "I love you, too son - over." "Roger on the love you mom - over."

Of course, our MARS capabilities came in handy on occasion. For instance, we once had to MARS our sister detachment (500 miles north, at Clark AFB) to send down toilet paper on the next bi-weekly C-47 supply run (all 20 of us were concurrently suffering a bout of dysentery). Sympathetic MARS operators in 15 different SEA locations shipped us cases of TP in response to our plea.

In February 1971, our seismic instruments detected a major earthquake in Southern California (the San Fernando Valley quake) - and detected it 20 minutes after the earthquake actually occurred. [The equipment at each of our 20-some-odd seismic locations scattered around the globe was sensitive enough to detect basically any earthquake that occurred anywhere in the world. When multiple locations reported the same event, computers operated by our "Head Shed" guys at Langley could triangulate the earthquake's location to a surface area the size of a football field, and within 100 yards in depth. But I digress.] We immediately jumped on the MARS radio and initiated HAM-operator long-distance calls to SoCal for our 3 comrades whose families lived there. Now understand...news of the quake had not yet been broadcast in SEA (senior military leadership had chosen to suppress this news for "morale" reasons), so the SEA MARS operators were REALLY" curious how we knew of it. Since our "cover story" was that we were a weather station (our real mission was top secret, and we all had TS-Crypto clearances), we weren't permitted to explain just how we knew there was a quake. Suffice it to say, once news of the quake was broadcast over the SEA MARS and AFRVN radio networks, the long-distance phone lines were jammed with worried troopers trying to find out if mom and dad, or the wife and kids, were OK.

Kinda sad, actually, to know that the roles were reversed: the troops actually IN harm's way were worried about the safety of their state-side kin.

Interesting times.

Cool story
 
Approximately what is the range of this hand held unit on sale?

Roughly, line of sight.
The nice part if you can hit a repeater your range is increased.
Linked repeaters multiply that range.
Just be aware you MUST be licensed by the FCC to legally transmit. You can receive whatever you can pick up.
 
In Colorado, if you are a licensed operator, there is a repeater system that runs throughout the entire state. You can transmit in Steamboat Springs and talk to someone in Alamosa, but as Acorn said, the VHF and UHF frequencies are line of sight so range is terrain determined using them without repeaters.

Stu
 
I'm not into it but my brother went down that rabbit hole some years ago. Now he has a room filled nearly to the ceiling with stuff, antennae (50 ft.) and others in the backyard, and he talks to people all over the world all the time. He also has a rig in each of his vehicles. Pretty incredible, actually. His daughter calls it "chat rooms for old guys."
 
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