Amazed at the number of folks who carry

[afriqueart]

My wife and I have just begun our interest in handguns. I've been all over the internet reading/learning. We've been to several gun stores. A local politician referred us to an old gun dealer where we purchased a model 60 (I'm looking for another one as everything I've read points me to the fact that this may be the best carry weapon for self defense). If anyone has a used one (pinned and recessed if possible) please contact me. I don't have a lot of money but I'm willing to not eat for a while if I find the right Model 60!

Anyway. We have spoken with friends and almost everyone of them carries! A girlfriend of my wife carries a Sig 9mm everywhere she goes. A guy I work with has carried for as long as I've known him. It's amazing that this topic has never come up before but since We've shown an interest, It seems like everyone we know (relatives included - I never knew my sister and brother in law carry Berettas!).

Has anyone else had similar experiences?

 

[jimmyj]

Hi:
I think the Public has woke up to the fact that the indiviual is responsible for Their own safety. Also tired of "VICTIM" of the leeches of society that don't want to work but want to take from those that do.
Jimmy

 

[Gutpile Charlie]

Afriqueart, that's what I carry...a model 60. To me, it is the perfect carry firearm. I can carry it in my pocket all day and even forget that it is there.

My wife has the M36...same thing except blue instead of stainless.

I have lots of guns...but this is what I choose to carry.

 

[Spotteddog]

I think folks are feeling a bit less hysterical about possibly being "outed" over it now?
In my mind, I figure someone who can carry and doesn't is the one now living in denial? There's such a strong herd instinct in most people that acting like sheep is easier and comes more naturally than standing on their own. But now some of them are more worried over NOT being able to pack, than in doing so. It's the logical outgrowth of 9-11, the War on terror, immigration and it's attendant gang chaos, and whack job random shooters among dozens of lesser reasons. Stir in a healthy dose of possible financial trouble and bake in a 350 degree oven. Not that most aren't justifiably still tight lipped about it at work!

 

[NKJ nut]

I am constantly amazed by some of the people I know, who do not carry. People who should know better. The good news is that more and more good people are starting to see the need.

My wife is one of them. Recently she started carrying. We are still working out a few little things like which holster is best and stuff like that, but the main thing is, that she has decided to carry.

 

[scooter123]

I'm a sometimes surprized by those who don't carry. My brother has been a bit concerned about me getting shot during a traffic stop because of my CPL. So, he asked a Deputy Sheriff at his gym how she felt about concealed carry. Her answer surprized him a bit and eased his mind. Basically, she told him that she approaches every traffic stop subject with the assumption that they are armed. She considers the fact that someone who cares enough about the law to get a permit as a positive indication that she isn't dealing with some idiot. If they notify when, where, and how, they are carrying, she relaxes even more. BTW, my brother lives in Ohio where notification apparently isn't mandatory. In Michigan where I live, notification is mandatory and, even if it weren't, I would still notify out of simple courtesy.

Now the surprizing bit, that same Deputy doesn't carry when she is off duty. It seems that is optional for her department. By not carrying when she is off duty she is absolved from the requirement to get involved when she sees a crime in progress, which means she doesn't have to take on someone when she isn't wearing body armor. While that falls well short of the notion of the cop who is on duty 24/7 we see portrayed in the movies I really can't be too critical of her choice. As Joe Citizen my only obligation when I see a crime in progress is to call 911 so I really can't be too critical of a cop who desires that same level of responsibility when they are off duty and "naked".

As for my brother, he is now a good bit more relaxed about my carrying. His wife also wants to get herself an Ohio CCW and has been trying to talk him into getting one. Three weeks ago I took him to the range and let him try a sampling of my guns and he did pretty well for someone who hadn't shot anything other than a pellet rifle for over 30 years. He was impressed enough with my Sig P239 that he was asking about it today. That's not a surprize, the P239 is a small pistol that is very easy to shoot well with. Sadly, he wasn't impressed with my model 67 but that really isn't too surprizing for a new shooter. I really didn't get the "revolver thing" until I discovered how much shooting them improves trigger control, now I am hooked on them and my favorite range gun is that old 67.

 

[biggs357]

I was more suprised at all the people who ran out at the minutes of the eletion and got their permits.I've been carrying since 1994 and my wife has been carrying since 2007.Heck even my dad at age 86 carries a 2 shot Bond Derringer in .357/38.Kinda makes him feel like an old west good guy.

 

[USAF385]

I was at a get together had by my girlfriend's folks over the weekend. Her dad was surprised to find out his niece and her husband carry. It actually turned into a mini gun show with all the guns we had!

 

[GatorFarmer]

The number for a long time that floated around was that only 3 to 4 percent of those eligible to apply for a carry permit do so. Of that percentage, the number who'd carry all the time - as opposed to just wanting to carry while hunting or to keep a gun in the glove box or some such - is probably lower.

Some areas will have higher numbers of course.

Anyway, try Auction Arms, the prices are usually lower than Gunbroker. As mentioned, a Model 36 is basically the same, you'll just have to remember to wipe it down more often or else get it hard chromed.

 

[Crazy K38]

actually i am the only one in my family that wants to carry other than my brother in law I wish I knew more CC people I am running out of gun friends.

 

[USAF385]

actually i am the only one in my family that wants to carry other than my brother in law I wish I knew more CC people I am running out of gun friends.

Next time you're in north east PA look me up! I'll be your gun friend! haha I've finally gotten one of my local buddies into guns, which is great for me!

 

[jframefreak]

actually i am the only one in my family that wants to carry other than my brother in law I wish I knew more CC people I am running out of gun friends.

Me too. My girlfriend thinks I'm a deranged lunatic because I carry. I've come to the conclusion that it doesn't really matter what she thinks.

 

[BarbC]

A couple we are getting friendly with and who are both in the health field stopped over the house yesterday. I ran around putting the guns out of sight and tossing the Smithsonian Magazine on the top of the stack of American Riflemans, Guns Magazine, etc. on the coffee table. They came in through the garage and there on the trunk of the blanketed Marauder was the 637 in a holster, which we use for snake shot, a single-shot .22 leaned up against the door to the house, and the .410 was near the garage door. Oops. She looked at the 637 and wiggled her fingers and said, Oooh... I thought her reaction was of apprehension.

WRONG!!

Turns out, they like their guns and shooting them too! This friendship is getting off to a great start!

 

[cmort666]

When you dial 911... if you get the chance, Doctor Who doesn't instantly show up in his TARDIS to save the day.

Defend yourself or don't get defended, period.

Police have no legal duty to protect individuals.
Police have no legal liability when they don't protect individuals.
Police have virtually no physical ability to protect individuals.

This seemed to come as a total surprise to several of my relatives when I told them this when I was in Chicago for Christmas. That was somewhat odd, given that some of them knew that my godsister had been stabbed to death by her boyfriend. I don't know if she was even able to dial 911. It sure didn't "defend" her.

Apparently a lot of people have seen enough newspaper and television stories about robberies, rapes and murders to learn this valuable life lesson. Everyone I know who denies it is not just irrational, but bordering on the anti-rational.

 

[cmort666]

Me too. My girlfriend thinks I'm a deranged lunatic because I carry. I've come to the conclusion that it doesn't really matter what she thinks.

I wonder if she'd feel more at ease if you ran into a "deranged lunatic" carrying a butcher knife when you're NOT armed?

My mother lives one suburb over from the Lane Bryant store in Tinley Park, Illinois where the guy shot six women in the head, killing five of them. He's never been caught. I'll bet if you could ask any of the five (and probably the sixth), they'd rather be "deranged lunatics", than corpses or victims of permanent brain damage.

 

[cmort666]

BTW, my brother lives in Ohio where notification apparently isn't mandatory.

That is ***100%*** INCORRECT!!!

Notification during an OFFICIAL law enforcement contact, while carrying, is MANDATORY in Ohio. Failing to notify in a "timely" manner is a CRIME and people get prosecuted for it. By the way, "timely" is NOT defined in the law.

If you have a CCW credential recognized by Ohio, are carrying and you are stopped by police for an official purpose, you had BETTER notify. Anybody who tells you different either doesn't know the law or is trying to get you in trouble.

You do NOT have to notify if you're not carrying.

 

[38-44HD45]

There are now well over 300,000 licensed carriers in Texas, and who knows how many more carry without a license, legally (in vehicles) and otherwise. For the life of me, I cannot figure out why ANYONE would not carry a gun, and I think I'm a fairly bright fellow...

 

[cmort666]

There are now well over 300,000 licensed carriers in Texas, and who knows how many more carry without a license, legally (in vehicles) and otherwise. For the life of me, I cannot figure out why ANYONE would not carry a gun, and I think I'm a fairly bright fellow...

A lot of other people are fairly NOT bright.

An elderly guy with whom I used to share an office once stated that in response to a home invasion that he'd "give them whatever they wanted". In an uncharacteristically kind moment, I didn't ask him if that included his 30-something Down's Syndrome daughter.

Some people actually don't know that there's true evil in the world. They grow up in banal suburban cocoons where the worst thing that's ever happened to anyone they know is malicious gossip, and where being "unpopular" is on a par with being drawn and quartered. I enjoy showing them that there is real evil in the world. A guy I knew in lawschool claimed that you didn't need guns to fight tyranny. I told him that I could prove that he was wrong. I told him that he could be him, and I'd be Joseph Stalin. As soon as he started to say something, I pointed my finger at his head and said "bang!" Every time he tried to speak, I did the same thing. Finally, he managed to blurt out, "You can't kill all of us!" I replied, "I've got more bullets than you have friends willing to die for YOUR beliefs. Eventually, THEY will hunt you down and kill you in return for leniency... then I'll have THEM shot." He folded like a house of cards. Nobody had ever rubbed his nose in HISTORY. The fate of the slaughtered wife and daughters of the doctor in Connecticut is simply the same attitude toward human life and suffering in miniature.

On the other hand, some people are simply impervious to reason. If reality doesn't match their prejudices, they pretend that they've altered reality. Cite for them the court decisions that declare that police have no duty to protect individuals and they'll point to "To Serve and Protect" painted on the door of a police car as "proof" that they really do HAVE to "protect" you as an individual. But then there are people who believe the moon landings were faked and that "fire can't melt steel" too.

Nobody ever lost money betting on people's stupidity.

 

[Erich]

What'd the old guy say when you asked that about his daughter, cmort? (Good argument.)

 

[cmort666]

What'd the old guy say when you asked that about his daughter, cmort? (Good argument.)

As I said, I didn't mention it. I figured he'd vapor lock if I did.

He's the kind who responds to unpleasant truth with irrational anger.

He once rattled off the nonsequitor about how "young" the Iranian population is. I replied, "And...?" He couldn't actually tell me how it was relevant to the continuation of religious fascism in Iran. He just got mad when I asked him the average age of a kamikaze pilot and whether the "young" population of WWII Japan prevented war or preserved democracy.

I didn't need to kill him to make my point.