Another scope question

[steelcity]

I just bought a M&P Sport and looking for a scope in the cheaper class to go with my entry level AR. I will mainly be shooting paper and hogs inside 100 yards.

Today I was able to look at the Vortex Crossfire, P223, and Leupold Mark AR. The Crossfire was nice for the price. I noticed at higher power it seemed to get a little hazy around the edges. The P223 was nice but I wasn't crazy about the big turrets and lack of covers for them. For some extra $$$ I could get the Leupold Mark AR. It's lighter than the P223 and seemed a little clearer to me. The turrets are smaller. Can anyone confirm that the Leupold Mark AR comes with turret covers? I have seen pics with them and others without them. The firedot was nice but I'd probably end up getting the Mil Dot.

 

[427mach1]

Leupold is my favorite scope manufacturer, but for the money I went with the Nikon P223 3-9x40 on my AR and really like it. I don't have any experience with Vortex scopes. I don't think you could go wrong with any of these, so I suggest you choose based on which ever scope has the most features that are important to you.

 

[steelcity]

Do you have any issues with bumping the turrets and losing zero while taking in/out of case or while hunting if you use it for that?

 

[Chew]

I have a Leupold VX3 on my dedicated deer hunting rifle (Winchester M70) because I try to buy/keep the American made theme constant. Leupold is also my favorite scope manufacturer. However with my Sport that I coyote hunt/plink with I decided to keep it on a budget and give Vortex a try. They have a dynamite warranty even on lower end scopes. I put a 2-7x32 Crossfire II on it in Nikon rings. I'm happy with it so far. I think for the short range (up close-150 yards)/quick shooting I needed for yotes it's a good fit. It's still holding zero and chugging along. If it goes bad they have a great warranty, so I'm confident I'll be taken care of.

Here's my Sport in its current configuration.

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[427mach1]

Do you have any issues with bumping the turrets and losing zero while taking in/out of case or while hunting if you use it for that?

No, I haven't. It has a zero indicator on each turret. Once you zero it in, you pull out on the turret, rotated it to indicate zero, and release it. If you ever accidentally twist the turret, simply return it to the zero indicated position. I think it would be extremely difficult to accidentally pull, twist, and release; which would result in losing your zero.

 

[JoseVazquez76]

The Vortex Crossfire 3X9 Is a beast the price the turrets are re-settable and also has a unlimited lifetime warranty. I have it on my Sport, but decided to leave it on my 308 bolt action the eye relief and clarity are outstanding. The Bushnell AR/223 is also awesome its alot of scope for the price the parallax setting on in is very good, But i ended up selling it because i wanted a higher power scope so i went with the Nikon Pro-staff 4X12X40.

But anyways The Vortex crossfire ir really worth looking into along with the Nikon and Bushnell AR/223 series.

 

[steelcity]

I was able to go back and look at the scopes again. I'm leaning towards the Leupold VX2 3-9x40. Very light, very clear and let's in good light, and turret caps.

 

[alwslate]

If you're looking for the best light weight scope for the money for use
under 100 yds you surely don't need 9 power. The Leupold VX-1 1X-4X
scope sold as a shotgun - muzzleloader scope has a matte finish and
heavy crosshair reticle for use in the woods. It has enclosed hunting
type turrets, weighs 8 oz and sells for less than $200.

 

[Ricer2231]

I love my Vortex CrossfireII. For the clarity, lifetime unconditional guarantee, and price I really felt like I couldn't go wrong. I matched it up with the Burris P. E. P. R. mount.



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[steelcity]

Think I'm going with the Revolution. Compared the Revolution and the Vortex Diamondback. I found colors to be better with the Revolution. I then compared the Revolution to the VX-2. They let me take them both outside and look around. I couldn't tell a difference between the two. The VX2 had a little bit more eye relief but that was about it. The turrets on the Revolution were more along the lines of the VX1 with the friction adjustments.

The price difference between the two will allow me to pick up the Aero Precision mount.

 

[Rastoff]

Which one? Are you talking about the Redfield Revolution? What magnification?

 

[steelcity]

Yes, Redfield Revolution 3-9x40.

 

[Rastoff]

For use at the range and maybe some hunting, that scope will be fine. It's not my first choice, but then I've become a "scope snob" lately. I've learned the hard way about the value of not going cheap on a scope. However, I've heard many good things and lots of positive reviews of the recent Redfield products.

I don't know about their warranty though. It's impossible to have a better warranty than Leupold or Vortex.

 

[steelcity]

They have a "No Excuses", life time warranty as a Leupold would.
Redfield Revolution Riflescopes

In my opinion this is a better scope than the Crossfire and Diamond back plus I bought 'Merican.

 

[Rastoff]

Lots of companies have lifetime warranties. Very few honor them like Vortex and Leupold do.

I have a friend that dropped his Leupold (attached to the rifle) from the back of his truck. It broke. Clearly his fault and not a defect. He called Leupold trying to find another scope because he liked that one. They told him to send it in and they'd replace it. He didn't lie, and told them it was his own fault. They said they didn't care and send him a new scope anyway.

I had a problem with a Vortex red dot. It turns out that it was my own issue and nothing was wrong with the red dot. They were willing to replace it or refund my money anyway.

I hope that Redfield does the same thing as those two companies do. Like I said, they have good reviews. If they had made a scope similar to one that I bought for my .308, I would have bought it from them, but they don't make one. I think you'll be happy with the Redfield. I look forward to a review.

 

[Chew]

Lots of companies have lifetime warranties. Very few honor them like Vortex and Leupold do.



I hope that Redfield does the same thing as those two companies do.

Leupold owns Redfield. I would expect the same great customer service from Redfield.



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[Rastoff]

Leupold owns Redfield.

I did not know that. Is it a recent acquisition?

 

[steelcity]

April 2008

 

[Rastoff]

I would call that recent considering Leupold is 107 years old.

 

[steelcity]

I called Leupold today and spoke with two gentlemen. I was told the Revolution was modeled after the VX1/VX2 which we know. The Revolution has glass/coatings on par with the VX2. The VX2 let's in 1-2% more light. The revolution has turrets that are the same as the VX1. The revolution has a little rougher finish than the Leupold. Same warranty. So with all that I'm going to try the Revolution for the price difference.