Any 38 Speer plastic casing available

[Ghost Magnum]

I’m looking for Speer plastic training bullet case in 38 special. But I can’t find any available. I want to make wax bullets to practice with. I bought some S&W throwing knives and tomahawks. I want to do some quick draw and trick shooting, naturally I don’t want to use live ammunition. Yes, I know I can break my foot with a wax bullet.

 

[ColbyBruce]

I haven’t seen any for sale in a while

I have some .44 cases and bullets. These may have been discontinued. Have you tried pushing primed brass through a block of Gulf wax? (Canning wax, comes in a block)

 

[reddog81]

I believe the plastic cases are for use with the plastic bullets. Wax bullets can be used with normal cases

 

[jc2721]

The Speers are designed to work with the step-heeled plastic bullets, I don't think it will work well with wax bullets.

Typically, .38 brass is prepped by drilling out the flash hole to a larger size (to prevent primer set-back), then the case is pushed through a sheet of wax then primed. Be sure to separate/mark your brass if you do this.

 

[GypsmJim]

I believe the plastic cases are for use with the plastic bullets. Wax bullets can be used with normal cases

That's it. I still have a few boxes of them.

I used them eons ago when I lived in the city. Now I have available ranges and can shoot the "real" stuff.

 

[DWalt]

At one time there were several makers of the plastic cases and bullets. A primer was the sole propellant used. They could be reloaded without any special tools. My experience many years ago was not particularly good. The cases would often split after several firings. I still have some of them someplace.

The normal procedure is to take a de-primed .38 Special fired case and drill the flash hole in the primer pocket larger using a 1/8” drill bit. Push the mouth of an unprimed case through the thin block of canning paraffin (wax), then prime. Supermarkets usually carry canning paraffin. A cardboard box stuffed with newspaper makes an OK backstop. Fired wax pellets can be melted and re-used. Finding the right temperature is important, as the paraffin can be too hard or too soft. Under no circumstances should you ever shoot at people or pets with wax bullets as they can cause serious injury. Do not be tempted to add any smokeless powder to the cases. Also, do not use cases with the enlarged flash holes for reloading with powder and bullets.

 

[Nevada Ed]

I believe the plastic cases are for use with the plastic bullets. Wax bullets can be used with normal cases

plus you will need large pistol primers, for the plastic cases.

 

[rockquarry]

I haven't used the Speer cases and bullets in about forty years. I used wax bullets before that but never found it necessary to drill out the flash holes.

I dont know if any of this was ever very popular but wax bullets and Speer plastic bullets were reasonably accurate at 15 or 20 feet, maybe a little farther. If you suspended a piece of carpet in a cardboard box (to stop the plastic bullets) the bullets weren't deformed in the least and could be used many times.

 

[Ghost Magnum]

I texted a gun smith whom I’m Facebook friends with. I asked him about the plastic casing and wax ammunition. I told me he doesn’t do that. But he has a old friend that makes his own custom ammunition and told me he will reach out to him later. He never got back to me about it. I guess I will ask him again.
I practice quick draw with my sure strike practice laser. But the laser doesn’t replicate recoil or windage. Since I’m getting back into knife throwing I decided to combine the two for trick shots and show. But for reasons I’m sure everyone will understand. I do not want to use live ammunition for that.
I’m going to wrap my older steal toe security patrol boot with cardboard and a old cut up rug when I practice.
But these will be handy with basic practice too. When I was a kid/teenager. I could shoot all day with no danger to anyone. Now there is gas wells, chicken farms and Californias everywhere out here. If I want to do real shooting I have to go to a range.
I live in central texas by the way

 

[Green Frog]

I shoot wax bullets in a 45 SA for Cowboy Fast Draw. We use drilled out cases that take 209 primers and our wax bullets are pre-formed for us. OTOH, I have used the Lyman set for wax bullet shooting. It came with a special hand held priming tool, a pin type decapper, and several sheets of a paraffin based red wax. If I were going to do what you're talking about, I'd either seek out one of these kits for whatever caliber you are planning to shoot or perhaps duplicate it, starting with a Lee Auto Prime and a Lee decapping rod. There are several sources on the InterWeb for wax formulae to use.

PM me if you can't track down what you need.

Froggie

 

[loc n load]

Speer plastic bullets & cases

Speer still makes these. I have used them for years. Just bought some not too long ago. Just did a quick google search and found a couple places that have them in stock: Cliffsgunsmithing PN#8515- $11.95/50 & EBay.

 

[Ghost Magnum]

Speer still makes these. I have used them for years. Just bought some not too long ago. Just did a quick google search and found a couple places that have them in stock: Cliffsgunsmithing PN#8515- $11.95/50 & EBay.

Out of stock. I will figure out something. Thank you!

 

[Mike SC Hunter]

This thread brought back some memories. I use make the wax push through bullets and use them in 38 spl. to shoot wasp nest off the eves or ceiling of the barn................When the wife wasn't home I would open the fireplace doors and tape a target to the top. I would sit on the couch and shoot the target with my .38's...........May have to do this again.

 

[ArchAngelCD]

I agree with the above, you should use the Speer plastic bullets with the plastic cases.

I still have over 200 left, I bought 300 of each when they were on sale years ago at one of the online stores.

I looked at several usual sources and all are out of stock. ($10.99) I checked the Speer site and both the cases and bullets are still being made but also out of stock there. ($12.99)

Good luck finding them. You.should put yourself on the notification list so when they do come in you will be notified.

 

[tmd17]

I "cast" my own hot glue projectiles for playing in the garage. You should be able to find a used Lee mold on e bay for less than $20.



They are easy to make, durable, and reasonably accurate.

 

[DWalt]

Unfortunately, primers needed are not as easily found and inexpensive as they used to be.

I spent severable miserable Cleveland winters shooting paraffin bullets in my warm house basement.

The hot glue bullets are a good idea. Have not heard of those before.

 

[Mike SC Hunter]

I "cast" my own hot glue projectiles for playing in the garage. You should be able to find a used Lee mold on e bay for less than $20.

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They are easy to make, durable, and reasonably accurate.

Please explain your process. I have lee molds and a hot glue gun.

 

[max503]

Please explain your process. I have lee molds and a hot glue gun.

Casting hot glue boolits

 

[robvious]

look up (google)
Dead Eye EZ Loader Wax Bullets
I have no affiliation, just have been fascinated by them in the past...

 

[AJ]

I would consider the Speer practice case and projectiles as collectors items. If I need practice rounds, I would make them out of steel/brass cases and was projectiles.

I have three boxes of these in my collection