Any Diabetics out here? Need advice - suggestions

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Went to the Dr. for blood pressure spikes (160/100), not feeling well. My lab results came back: Hemoglobin A1c = 6.9H. Normal range is 4.8-5.6. When he told me I said: "you must be making a mistake"; he said "NO!"

I'm going back to speak to a nutritionist. What I understand is: nothing white, no bread, no potato, no rice, no white sugar or other sweets.

How do you eat? What are some good suggestions for dinner? I know Oatmeal is good, no toast. Lots of vegetables. Raw carrots? Yuk!

Lean chicken and salad? My HDL/LDL was up also.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.
 
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Try Excercise, and Diet for WEIGHT LOSS if Needed.

AGE can make a difference.

Type 2 diabetes has now become a medical and pharmaceutical CASH COW.

The medical industry has lowered "THE NUMBER" to make more
people Type 2 by DEFINITION.

Your A1C at 6.9 is high though.

Gloucose Readings used to be NORMAL 80-120,
NOW 70-105, that helps sell more pills.

Type 1 is INSULIN DEPENDENT (SHOTS), is MORE SERIOUS.
 
Any A1C Hemoglobin between 6.0 and 6.9 is considered "pre-diabetic". 7.0, and over is considered Type 2.

Doctors can put you on Metformin, which helps reduce A1C and blood glucose readings.

However, the best solution is to excercise, and watch your food portions. Do not eliminate starches, regardless what the dietician says. Starches, as well as fats, meat, etc., are essential foods. Just re-arrange your diet, and add vegetables, salads, etc.

If you get out and walk two miles per day, six days per week, you'll see a marked reduction in blood sugar levels (A1C is a three-month moving number, and blood glucose is the daily number after fasting overnight).

I went to the doctor in June for my "Welcome to Medicare" physical. He scheduled me for blood tests, and I saw him again five weeks later (7/12/2012). Not good news. A1C = 8.2, fasting glucose = 160, and LDL cholesterol = 103. Weight = 270.

He started me on Metformin; 500mg twice daily; boosted my Simvastatin to 40mg daily. See him in 10 weeks.

On July 13, I reduced my overall food intake, and started walking daily. I live near a good rubberized-asphalt track. First week was 1 mile daily; then 1.5 miles daily, etc.

On September 22, I saw him again. A1C = 7.3, fasting glucose = 110, LD: cholesterol = 74. Weight = 258. Waist is down 4 inches.

Today, I'm walking one hour daily, six days per week. Weight is down to 245. I see the doctor again on November 27.

Do the drugs help? I'm sure they do. However, my pharmacist saw me, and commented about my progress. Here's his quote - "The drugs have helped. But your commitment to exercise is responsible for 70% of your improvements."
 
First i had a hard time trying to control my sugar till i went to a diabetic specialist. I found this doctor to be a guru and he got my diabeties under control. Before i went to him my sugar levels were on a roller coaster ride up and down constantly.

I stay away from sugars and carbs/starches were i can. I do eat less starches when i can. I shoot 55cc's of lantus morning and evenings. At breakfast, lunch and supper i shoot the pen with novolog 42cc's. I do the best i can eating wise. I went from 390lbs to 360lbs recently by changing how much i eat at every meal, cutting back is helping. I need to lose 150lbs. Living with diabete's years ago i would eat a chocolate bar before riding a dirtbike or running a chainsaw. Being active would burn up the sugars. I did this when my sugar is under control. I been doing great on the pen with the novolog at meals and the lantus mornings and evenings.

Novolog; if my sugar is between 70 to 150 the 42cc injection is ok. 150 to 200 i shoot 44cc, 200 to 250 i shoot 46cc ect. The lantus is fixed at 55cc. morning and evening.

novolog is fast acting insulant
lantus is slow acting insulant.

Its everything in moderation, exercise and diet. Your in control.
 
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Blood pressure and blood sugar

Diet and exercise control mine.

Walk after breakfast at moderate pace. ( 1.7mi in 40min )

Cut back on portions.

One half potato at dinner with butter substitute, no salt.

No salt shaker on table anymore.

Blood pressure is now excellent.

Dietician also suggested healthy between meal snacks
to keep metabolism running steadily.

Plenty of water.

Stick with diet and exercise to get numbers to brag about
soon.

This worked for me at 71yo.

Good Luck
 
I can understand your feelings. Went through the same a few years ago.
Recently, the doctor reclassified me as "glucose intolerant" (whatever that is).
This was after 5 years or "normal" A1C readings.
When first diagnosed I,
Went on a crash diet. Lost 40 pounds.
Visited with a dietician (VERY helpful)
Learned how to read product labels.
Learned the difference between "fast" and "slow" carbs. Your body has to have carbs for fuel. Understand which ones don't spike blood sugar.
Cut out anything with sugar or HFCS in it.
Eat whole grain products. WASA crackers are a favorite.
I take 1000mg of cinnamon 3 times a day. Helps many people control blood sugar.
Never took any medication.
Threw away the blood sugar meter after a year.
Good luck, keep positive there is hope.
 
If you gotta have carbs go with complex ones . White bread , white rice , potatoes & white pasta , desserts / sweets & sugar will all jack your glucose / A1C readings . Just about all meds for chlorestrol will mess with your liver . If you have to drink light beer or straight whiskey . Exercise ie walking , ride a bike , swim etc . I still have to take 1000mg metformin , 4mg amaryl & 46 IU Lantus daily . Try to keep your fasting glucose under 130 . Fresh fruit & vegatables etc . Just about all prepared foods have way more salt &/or sugar than you need . Read the labels you'll be suprised . Sea salt if you have to . Quit smoking if you can . Cut portion sizes , snack on healthy stuff & loose weight . If you change your lifestyle you can reduce meds needed & in some cases do away with them . A good endocinoligist will coach you into the way to live .
 
Don't get too distraught if you have to go on insulin.
Slow release (Lantus) once a day is no real hassle - life can be good again.
 
A1C at 6.9 is heading towards the high side of the current scale and hopefully you are able to turn things back a bit with some changes.

Weight loss and consistent low carb intake seems to be some of the keys in regulating A1C levels and blood sugar levels over time.

Here is a good article on counting carbs per meal (and snacks) and a suggested range to try to stay between. They recommend 45 to 60 carbs per meal and yep, you would need to start reading food labels and restaurant nutrition sheets (many available on their websites) if you go out to eat often.

Carbohydrates Per Meal For Diabetics | LIVESTRONG.COM

Of course you should talk to your doctor and maybe ask them to send you to a dietician to see if there may be other factors in your particular case that need to be figured in.

Keeping to this kind of carb range they mention will immediately will show you those large french fries, sodapops and milk shakes are pretty much out, forever (you can still have a couple of fries, etc, just not the whole bag). Some items are much higher in carbs than other items even with in the same food group. For instance there are breads that contain have 21 carbs (or more) per slice and others you can find with 7.

It amazes me with all the focus on calories, but really carbs need to be factored in to the American diet as well. It was quite eye opening to read labels and finally comprehend how over-carbed the typical american diet is.

You can still eat good and tasty foods in a low carb way, and in time you will find the "sweetness" in many things you never new was there before after reducing the amount of processed sugars in the diet.

If you are now testing your sugar levels on a regular basis, keep track of what you eat and note how it affects your reported sugar levels and in time it will be come second nature to know what is or isn't helping you so you can adjust your intake as needed. Hopefully in a few short months you and your doctor will see some positive changes.

Take care.
 
As you are checking your glucose, keep track of any unusual situations. An infection, cold, or flu can cause a tremendous uptick in your readings. In particular, anything with a steroid (which includes many cold and allergy meds) can cause readings in the 300 to 400 range. I was considered prediabetic three years ago, and was on 500 units of Metformin once a day. On a vacation, I nicked my shin when taking off a compression stocking. It became infected, although not seriously, but when I went to a walk-in clinic to have it looked at, my glucose had shot up to 400. When I got home and saw my doctor, my A1c was 10.4. Needless to say, my regimen has changed significantly; my latest was 6.9.

A cortisone shot will really give you fits. A friend who has lived with diabetes for many years, and is extremely careful about diet and exercise had a cortisone shot for a shoulder problem. His glucose reading went over 800!
 
I hate it when I read my story. Its probbly a bad place to ask for medical advice. But everyone see's their diabetic symtoms and treatment as the answer to the problem. Like you my a1c turned up in the high 6's. My family doctor started me on metformin and it worked. Went thru the nutrionist thing, got on an exersize program. Loss 70 lbs in 9 months, but old habits are hard to break, I was feeling so good I thought I could go back to eating my old stuff. My a1c was elevated again. I was talking to a friend who's wife has a sugar problem and she was seeing a doctor that specialized in the field. She got me a referal to him and he changed my med to Victoza and I got back on track. My a1c is 5.3 last week. I would get a second opinion from a doctor that specializes in this illness. Just my opinion. Best of luck to ya for real.
 
Definitely get a second opinion. I also highly recommend reading about low carb/sugar diets, i.e. south beach diet. It has helped my wife stay off insulin. Diabetes runs strongly in her family, 3 generations in a row.
 
Dennis has really good advice, to which I'll add a few comments.

1) Definitely speak to the nutritionist. You might also be referred to a Diabetic Nurse - Educator to give you some more information. You can have some carbohydrates, but as someone has pointed out, complex ones. Wheat bread, not white bread. Brown rice, not white rice. Very little rice in general. Multi grain breads and rolls. No sugar, or at least as little as possible. Brown rice, wheat toast, and the like are harder for the body to break down, so the body burns off more glucose in the process.

2) As my doctor explained it, Metformin will do a little, but exercise and diet are the keys. I think the recommendation for exercise is 30 minutes 3 times a week, but I do a lot more. I try for at least 30 minutes a day, more when I can ride my bike outside. Bikes are very good exercise, but even walking at a brisk pace is good. I've lost some weight, but more importantly, I've lost fat. Muscle weighs more than fat and muscle will hold water, which fat won't. When I first started, my weight actually went up, but I dropped belt sizes. Again, my doctor said don't worry about the weight, at some point my body will use up the stores of fatty acids in my liver and start using the fat stored in my body. It's true.

3) I eat lots of fruit and vegetables, more than I used to. There is some controversy about eating more protein and you should do some research before making a decision about that. A lot of people seem to be on the "paleo" diet or something similar. It goes against conventional wisdom, but a lot of people think that the government sponsored food pyramid is designed more to help farmers than patients. Again, do your research. We eat lots of chicken, but always have. Oh, some people are very much in favor of eating game meats, such as Venison.

3) I don't check my blood glucose every day. In fact, the only check I get is the quarterly hbA1C. IMHO and my doctor agreed, checking your blood glucose daily will merely drive you nuts as you try to game the system to make the numbers look good. This is not a day to day battle, this is going to require you to change your lifestyle to some extent. The nurse educator wanted me to get a glucometer and do daily checks, but I refused based on my conversations with my doctor. Again, talk to your doctor and decide what you are going to do.

4) It's a huge shock to get this diagnosis. I was stunned at first and like you in denial. Then I got depressed for a few days. Then I decided that I was going to beat this as much as you can. My goal is to get my A1C down to where I don't need meds. I don't know if that is going to happen, but it's a goal. I'm always aware of what I'm eating now, and have changed my dietary habits. I can still occasionally enjoy French Fries, pizza, even Chinese food, but those are treats. You just have to make up your mind that you are going to change and do it. Oh, I also cut out almost all diet soda. I don't know if that has anything to do with weight loss, again there is controversy, but it's what I did.

Finally (I think) I disagree about the insulin. Type II diabetics seem to deteriorate more quickly when they start using any form of insulin. At least that's my observation from seeing my mother's slow decline once she went on insulin in addition to the oral glucose control agents she was taking. Diabetes is a very insidious disease and causes all sort of other problems including cardiac disease, peripheral vascular problems, and, neuropathy. The last two manifest themselves in the legs and feet, and are why so many diabetics have foot and leg problems.

In the end it all comes down to diet and exercise. You don't have to live like a prisoner when it comes to food, but you do have to plan out your meals and be aware of what you are eating. Find an exercise plan that works with you and stick with it.
 
Wow, thanks for all the information.

I'm turning 66 in a couple weeks, and this is my first day at being "Diabetic".

Breakfast was Oatmeal and soy milk, couple strawberries. Lunch, a few romaine lettuce burritos (rolled up) with a little almond butter. One plum and carrot sticks as a snack. Dinner, Vegetable Chicken soup and salad. Exercised 20 minutes.

Oh, the memory of a piece of apple pie a la mode and a cup of good coffee with cream and sugar.... :-/ There's a bunch of other good stuff I can think of right now. Yunno?
 
Lots of good advice here. Here is a different point of view.

My son has been type 1 diabetic for 20 years now. He is 27 years old now. That is hard when your child gets diabetes, believe me. Type 1 is much more severe than type 2 diabetes.

Look for type 1 diabetic cooking recipes. There are many cookbooks that are diabetic recipes only. My son has pie, cake, banana bread, cookies, etc. Along with many other meals. There is no need to NOT eat anything, JUST make it SUGAR FREE! It is just that simple. Never heard of not eating white bread!? Things taste bland for awhile but you get use to it and if you eat something sweet it tastes TOO sweet! I went on the same diet as my son when he got diabetes. (A dads moral support to his son).

My wife still makes me sugar free stuff because I prefer it now. I am healthier for it I believe. I have Minere's disease-an inner ear equaliberium problem. Salt retains fluids and makes my problems bad. I am pretty much sugar and salt free and I don't miss them.

Just remember that any starch will convert to sugar. Alcohol converts to sugar. Fruits convert to sugar. GREEN BEANS are starch free!!!! Guess what I like to eat! Potatoes are a starch, just eat a smaller one.
You don't need dessert every night just for a once in a while treat.
I personally think your doc is a little misinformed on what you can eat. Go to a type 1 diabetes simenar in your area. You will learn that your life will change very little, just eliminate most sugar in your foods.

Carb counting is a good way to manage your diabetes. No big deal. Not being able to stand up because of an inner ear problem is much worse. ;)

John
 
Aw come on fellas, couldn't you wait until the trick-or-treat candy is gone to post this stuff??!!

Just got my first "numbers" and have a similar story.

My Rx is practical as well.

No more fun allowed...
 
The hardest thing for me to give up was the bread, I could make a meal out of fresh baked bread and a stick of butter. :P The sweets and other starches were not that hard. You do not have to give them up entirely, you just can't pig out on them anymore. I still have a slice of bread just not the whole loaf. On pizza nights instead of eating half to three quarters of a pie it's two slices and a salad. I still eat BBQ just no sugar sauce on the meat. I still eat subs for lunch but instead of a footlong I get the double meat 6". In general I eat a lot more lean meats fish and veggies. Start buying wheat breads and whole grain stuff, the complex carbs take longer for your body to process and you don't get the spikes that the white bread and white rice give you.
 
if you have not yet seen an endocrinologist yet,make that a priority. i have been diabetic since 1994 and an insulin user for14yrs. insulin is not the end of the world and how you react to it is individual. you do have to realign what you eat. eating out can be an adventure. forget about all the fast foods,not allowed. no alcohol either. salt in very linited quantities. did they tell you how expensive this disease is? i need two types of insulin. one for meals and one at night. you will learn to count carbs and if you have to eat out, get one of the little books that tells you carb counts that are in everything,even most restaurant food. it is a life changer,but life goes on.
 
Breakfast was Oatmeal and soy milk

Time to start reading labels...

There are several types of oatmeal, and most of them are too high in carbs to be a good choice for a diabetic. Details at:
Carbs in Oatmeal

Example: a cup of instant oatmeal lists at 42.63g of carbs. For comparison, a small candy bar usually runs about 30g of carbs.

Regular soy milk can run as high as 25g of carbs per cup, depending on the sugar content. The unsweetened type is much lower in carbs.
 
The short and simple version: I was on a pretty good sized dose of prednisone for several months. It did a lot of damage, but was needed as the initial treatment for a kidney problem (enlarged filtering mechanisms, the name of which I can pronounce but not spell easily in this setting). I was passing about 8K X as much protein as I should. The exact cause is/was unknown.

There can be side effects to long term use of prednisone. I gained a lot weight quickly (so much so fast I ended up having a herniated belly button which had be surgically repaired a couple years later), and got weaker. It sucked. I injured myself trying to left the same amount. FML. I used to run a lot, thinking nothing of a 10 miler in the afternoon when I got up (ahh, power shift :D; day shift is the pits and as far as I concerned, French for "grievance"). After the run, it was gym time. As I got older, the running was gradually replaced with exercise bike time, typically an hour at a pop, and hard. I broke 3 in just a couple of years, and the techs would freak out at finding my warm up level. I started having terrible leg cramps at about 20 minutes, ending my rides. I whined at the doctor (a kidney specialist) and they started doing blood draws. A couple were ok, one was >400. I did not understand what that meant or why the on-call doc got her Huggies in a bunch. I had an appointment coming soon, so I waited for that to have some more chats.

At that appointment, they did a blood draw, and them my wife and I went out to dinner (at our favorite local pasta place!). I got a phone call that night from the specialist, and he put me in the hospital. My BG, BEFORE the pasta, was near 700. I spent three days on IV insulin, learning all sorts of things about diabetic care, and meeting my new specialist, the endocrinologist. (I grew to call the two of them the conspirators, but they took such good care of me and I saw them so much that I did not see my GP for two years or so and did not need to. I have nothing but positive regard for them.) As a final indignity, 3 days after I got out of the hospital I was diagnosed with a clot in my leg and ended up with 4 more days. 3 different blood thinners at one; one oral, on IV, one sub-Q. FML some more. My A1C at the time of the appointment that revealed my clot (it was all part of the diabetic education classes, which were very good) was 13.X - REALLY HIGH. I have been told by people far more savvy on medical stuff than I that the overwhelming majority of patients with such experiences would not have survived. I was merely inconvenienced. This was a direct result of my exercise program and history; I have crummy genetics. I suffered some eye damage, but it was hard to tell the additional difference between bad genes and age (I was 48). They began weaning me off prednisone and switching me to something else, a 10 month project. As I got off the prednisone, my insulin needs dropped; I now have Metformin ER (regular Metformin cleaned me out like worming a cat) as a safety matter, but most control is diet and exercise.

I was appalled by some things I saw during the diabetic education. Most of my fellow patients were in ghastly health. A guy not a lot older than I had a walker. Most were sedentary. They looked like a slow motion suicide by lifestyle group. The educators referred to 30 minutes of exercise a day - heck, that's barely a good dog walk. (An hour a day, 5X weekly is threshold minimum, for someone who is not a professional athlete or combat arms soldier. My personal exercise bikes are salt stained from sweat - I try to get to and above 90% of predicted max HR when I train.) They advocated a starvation level diet because they were so used to sedentary people - I lose weight at 3K calories/day. As soon as I was cleared, I started exercising again, which is when I broke my 3rd exercise bike. I hit a local gym and used their treadmill until I got back into running (which I had to stop again a year ago due to another darned fool injury).

I check my BG in the AM, mostly for curiosity. Any stressor will screw it up. My last 4 A1Cs (every 6 months) have been 5.9, 5.9, 5.9. 5.8. I still eat a lot, but more carefully; avoiding McDonalds and the like is important. I also exercise hard when I can. Getting enough sleep is critical. In the real world, 8 hours is barely enough for most people. I get up early now (0400) so I can take care of the dog(s) and PT a bit before work, and I try to hit the bed by 2000 on work nights. At least once a week I try to do without setting an alarm, which usually means 11+ hours of sleep. I work a high stress job and need to work that off with good exercise and plenty of sleep.

My weekend workouts are pretty hard. My wife and I both work so much that we rarely do most social things, so this is not difficult. I try for at least hard 40 minutes on the exercise bike, and at least one of three weight work outs is HEAVY, starting at sets of 4 and dropping. (I did that for years because as I cop I had to scare people out of fighting, and fight the stupid and juveniles. I was in more fights with resistors as a juvenile prosecutor than as a cop.) I can't do a full body weight workout because I lift too heavy, and have to have at least 1 rest day between weight lifting days for the same reason. I've lost all but the last 10 pounds of the weight I gained due to the prednisone, and those 10 have been slow. Right now: 6'1+, 230; 38 pants, 50 coat. I want to get back where I was (36 pants, 220, same size coat).

Get some good education about blood glucose and insulin; watch your food (intake amount and type), get lots of good hard exercise and plenty of sleep. Exercise not only uses the sugar itself, but promotes better insulin uptake.
 

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