Anyone have a Spike's "T-2" Buffer?? Have major question

[nighttrainnc]

I read on Spike's website that the "ST T-2" buffer weighs "4.3oz" but they say weight may vary.

I purchased one from amazon and the description said 4.1oz, and in the Customer Review's, some people mentioned them weighing 4oz flat.

[span style='font-weight: bold;']Why is this, and how often are they truly 4.3?? Shouldnt they all be at the same spec weight wise??[/span]

I have an M&P Sport carbine which I hear is overgassed (Ive yet to clean to gas tube though so may not be too overgassed, lol, but ill clean it soon. only 500ish rounds through it)

I upgraded to H-Buffer (3.8oz) awhile back and it reduced recoil a bit so Im wanting to go one step further but worried about H-2 being too heavy, and I DO NOT want to change the factory spring being that it's worn in properly so figured the 4.3 weight of the Spike's "ST-T2" would be a good upgrade but not as drastic as the heavier "H-2" (4.8) buffer.

So I paid ALOT extra for the Spikes Tungsten Powder Buffer, being 4.3 is halfway between an H and H2 buffer (in terms of weight) and should be just right for what I need.. If the weight is 4.1 though. I'm not sure if their will be any advantage with this one VS my 3.8oz "H-Buffer" I already have. Atleast not an advantage worth 48 bucks when I could just buy a $12 "H-buffer", pull the tungsten weight from it and put in my H buffer, converting it to an H-2 (My original plan)

I'm just going to be VEEEERY Upset if it arrives and is only a ".1 or .2" difference from my H Buffer. Unless of course these Spike's buffers are better than the H-Series buffers and smooth out recoil and function better even if it ends up at very close weight to my H buffer.

[span style='font-weight: bold;']What are the odds it'll be 4.3 as labeled on their website?[/span]

Owners of this item, Please chime in......

 

[JaPes]

IMO, the gas tube rarely ever needs to be cleaned. The hot combustion gasses keep it clean. The only time I've read about blowing out the gas tube with brake cleaner was absolutely necessary was when someone out there used a viscous expanding foaming bore cleaning product and it expanded up into the gas tube.

 

[WU_Who]

I have the Spike's St-T2 buffer with a Springco Blue spring. I haven't weighed the buffer but would think that the varying differences is likely an error in taring the scale or so. The recoil was smoothed out some. My reason for the upgrades was to take advantage of the 1:8 twist 5r rifling with a free float handguard. The tungsten powder versus solid weights banging around just made sense. Is it better? Heck if I know. I have a tendency to be over think such things. I don't regret my purchases and would recommend it for the Sports featuring the same twist. Hope that helps you settle your internal debate and God bless.

 

[Ibmikey]

I use Spikes T-1 buffers in all of my AR's (including a 300 blackout) and as was previously stated not having the weights banging about "just makes sense". I want my rifles to perform under all situations and build them accordingly. The T-1 buffers weigh 2.99 to 3.01 oz. in a sampling of five.

 

[WR Moore]

ALL the AR pattern weapons systems are overgassed. It insures reliable operation under adverse conditions. The Mforgeries have 50% higher gas pressures within the BCG than the full length rifles. Which, can be a problem....see reduced bolt life, need for heavier extractor springs and mulitple weights of buffers.

Now then, cleaning of the gas tube was only necessary back in the early days when the folks at Olin, who brewed the ball powder, were overly generous with the chemical used to reduce muzzle flash. No longer really an issue unless you have OCD about cleaning.

The purpose of the loose weights within the buffer is to reduce bolt bounce (in full auto fire). As the buffer starts to rebound, the moving weight smacks the back of the buffer, reducing rebound. This also helps lower the cyclic rate, as does the heavier buffer if you're using a heavier than original buffer.

In a non-full auto, the primary use of heavier than standard buffers is to increase the dwell time (time the bolt stays locked). This lowers the velocity of the BCG and reduces felt recoil somewhat (at least the impact of the BCG in recoil). While the H buffer is a good idea, the high tech whiz bang buffers are a waste, IMHO.

No insult intended here, but I've been using the AR system for over 40 years (off and on) and don't believe I've ever seen a weapon with so much obsession over meaningless trivia.

 

[BillyJack2012]

I have a T2. I haven't weighed it, just put it in a build and if everything worked, I was fine with it. Sounds like a lot of over thinking to me.