Anyone use gold-dot front and V-notch rear?

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Thinking of replacing the standard sights on my 60-4 with a gold-dot front and V-notch rear blade. Anyone use such a setup on their revolvers?
 
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Gold Bead Front/ V-notch rear

Have put this combo on both a M-624 and M-625JM, both 4".
Find this combo excellent for rapid DA fire, not quite as accurate for bullseye SA work.
 
Find this combo excellent for rapid DA fire, not quite as accurate for bullseye SA work.
What kind of target hold do you use for your bullseye SA work? i.e. 6-o'clock, center mass, etc.

I was thinking that the gold dot would be better for SA shooting...
 
I tend to use center of mass for both SA and DA shooting.
I'm sure that 6 o'clock hold would be better for Sa accuracy, but would mean adjusting sights and I mostly shoot DA.
 
Elmer Keith was a big fan of that setup. Hard to argue against that.
 
I traded into a 5" M-625 with the SDM gold bead. For me the SDM bead was far too large in diameter. If you centered the bead in the rear sight you were then impacting too high. So one had to let the bead be basically cut in half and keep the top of the frt sight even with the top of the rear. The SDM in that particular setup didn't work very well.

Way back I had a M-27 with a factory gold bead...far smaller. That really worked well.

FN in MT
 
Elmer Keith was a big fan of that setup. Hard to argue against that.
Elmer wiped his bottom with pine cones too - but I think most folks would argue against that. :D

The plain, black "V" notch (or Express sight) won't work well for old eyes. I found it very difficult to use on my 329pd until I painted a white "^" (triangle) touching the bottom of the "V". The same trick has been used for a zillion years on rifle sights. The high-contrast triangle aligns my eye with the bottom of the "V" while I'm seeing the front sight (mine is red).
 
Elmer Keith was a big fan of that setup. Hard to argue against that.

On his revolvers Elmer used a plain black square notch combined with a black patridge front that had horizontal gold lines to use as reference marks for holding the top of his front sight above the top of his rear sight for long range.

The big gold bead combined with a shallow v rear is for shooting charging lions and tigers at the last moment before they sink their teeth into you. Some people like the set up for faster blaster pistol matches or self defense but I've never heard any of them say or write that they can get accuracy as good as they can with old fashioned sights. I'll defer to any of the forum's police survival training experts on the wisdom of this because I'm just a sport shooter, but I've never seen a big bead & shallow v on a police gun.

Best regards,

Gil
 
I have that configuration on my Ruger Blackhawk Hunter. I don't really like it. Give me a square black notch and black partridge any day.
 
Plus 1 for Gold Bead. Got rid of the V notchs and went with and nice square plan black rear sight. Great for the 50 plus age group.
 
I have that configuration on my Ruger Blackhawk Hunter. I don't really like it. Give me a square black notch and black partridge any day.

Amen! Compared to rifles handguns are accuracy challenged at best. It is stupid to market hunting handguns with sights that reduce their accuracy.

Gil
 
Plus 1 for Gold Bead. Got rid of the V notchs and went with and nice square plan black rear sight. Great for the 50 plus age group.

I also like approximately 0.08" gold beads or white dots inlet into patridge or ramp front sights combined with square notch rears. The color shows up in some light conditions that make all black sights hard to see and the dots can be used as a reference for holding the front sight high for long range. However, I'm sticking with plain black for bullseye.

Gil
 
I had one of the factory 7 shot 686's which came with a HiVizfront and V-notch rear. For some reason it did not resonate with me.
On my action pistol guns I have either a fiber optic or gold bead front and standard rear adjustable sight. Ifind the gold bead to be useful under a ider variety of lighting conditions than the fiber optic front.
I have also painted the equivalent of ca. 1/8 in. of the front sight height with fluorescent orange acrylic paint - that works as well for me as the fiber optic front sight.
 
I have a couple of revolvers set up with a red fiber optic front and a V notch rear. These guns are used for action-pistol type shooting where rapid sight acquisition is more important than precision. Works real well for me. Probably not as precice as a Patridge type set up, but not that bad either. I am 60+ and the traditional sights don't work that well for me, especially if I am in a hurry.
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Triggernosis said:
I think I could like that setup. Can a dot be inset into a ramp?

I typed that in too hastily. In a quick glance at non-S&W pistols I have white dots in front sights that slope forward but they do not slope forward nearly as much as a S&W ramp.

You'd have too be a little creative to inlet a dot into a ramp. I think I have seen it someplace. Now that you've got me thinking about it I'll ask my gunsmith if he'll do it to one of the removable ramps that fits in a 610 "Classic". I bet I have one in a week or two.

Gil
 
Triggernosis said:
Please let me know if he does, Gil. I'll have him make me one too.

Will do. Thinking about, the sides of the ramp remaining beside the dot will shade the dot so it won't show up as well as a dot on a patridge in poor light. I had him spot mill a set of 3 silhoutte patridge blades and ad a drop of white paint to them. I think that was $10.

Gil
 
For precision SA Bullseye shooting, nothing beats the Patridge front blade and the square notch rear sight. Something else may be better for rapid target acquisition in some other shooting game including hunting or self defense......
 
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