Are these projectiles good to go?

[SVT28]

I picked up some pulled 230 grain 45 XTP projectiles from the usual go to vendor for reloading last week and got them in yesterday.

They were advertised as heavy pull marks which has never been a big issue in the past. Just inspect, weigh, check diameter and load. This batch though look like they came from some factory loads that were way over crimped.

At first I thought the diameter on these would be too small and that the end of the round outside of the case once loaded is bulged, causing pressure concerns. But after checking a few of these it appears that they make be ok to load and shoot as none of the projectiles measure more than .451-.452

I guess my eyes played tricks on me since the overcrimp was so drastic. I load 45 with mild charges of W231/HP38 and shoot most through my 45 moon clip revolvers. What do you guys think?

SVT28

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[rockquarry]

I'd load up some and shoot them. As long as your crimp is okay and the bullet doesn't move under recoil and the rounds chamber okay, they should work fine. The distortion may or may not affect accuracy, but you'll quickly find this out.

 

[SVT28]

Should I seat and crimp with the indention exposed ie load them at a little longer OAL? Or seat with the case mouth even with indention, or a little deeper?

SVT28

 

[rockquarry]

Should I seat and crimp with the indention exposed ie load them at a little longer OAL? Or seat with the case mouth even with indention, or a little deeper?

SVT28

I'd let the chamber in your barrel be the guide as to overall length and wouldn't dwell on the indention unless the distortion is so great it prevents a proper taper crimp and/or makes chambering difficult.

You may have to play with all this a little to get everything right. If you have a large quantity of these bullets, the experimentation might be worth the effort.

 

[Model 15-4ever]

My eyes hurt looking at those.

No max loads. Range practice only. Usual seating depth but check for proper dimensions. LE Wilson chamber check gauge is worth the money for auto pistol reloading... you might have to check every round as the exact distortion seems to vary with each projectile.

Hope they work out for you! I wouldn't pay more than a plugged nickel for them. Who was selling those abortions?

 

[SVT28]

I bought 500, which is the qty this vendor usually sells their factory blemished or pulled projectiles in. These will likely never see an auto loader so plunk/chamber tests likely will never happen. They may see my Glock 36 barrel, probably not though.

Most of my 45acp reload shooting goes through my moon clip revolvers. I paid $55 for 500 of them. I have thousands of other 45 projectiles so these were just bought as “put back in the stash”.

I’ll leave the vendor nameless because for the amount of very satisfied business I’ve done with them far surpasses one small $50ish purchase. Given that the majority of the bullet base is .451 and none of the bullet is bulged, I think they should be good to go.

SVT28

 

[ken158]

I value my time and equipment and would turn down pulled bullets that look like that even if they were free.

 

[Warren Sear]

I'd shoot those bullets, and never give it a second thought.

Send them to me of you don't want t them. I'll gladly pay shipping.

 

[Alk8944]

Shoot them! The prior crimp is insignificant and no safety issue as at least one other poster has implied. If you are shooting them in a revolver I would seat them so your new crimp falls in the place those were already crimped in instead of further distorting them by crimping in a new location. In other words I second what Warren Sear said just above!

 

[SGT ROCK 11B]

Measure twice, cut once. Great saying I use it a lot.

I don't buy seconds. Get X-Treme Bullets or buy lead bullets locally.

X-Treme BULLETS

 

[BLUEDOT37]

The dents between the nose of the bullet & it's shoulder look like the bullet was held with some pliers while the case was pulled downward, like in a reloading press, rather than with an inertia puller.

I've done that on bullets I had no expectations of reusing.

I think you're doing future buyers an injustice by not saying who you got them from. Those look sad!

Did the online ad picture look like these?

That said, since you're stuck with them, I'd use them like has already been mentioned, for use in a revolver with moonclips (or in 45AR brass). Make sure they seat with good bullet-case tension & seat/crimp them to the original crimp line.

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[6string]

A waste of time and money, including that spent on the powder and primers.

Doesn’t anybody here care about accuracy anymore?

For the money spent on those bullets, you could’ve bought a nice used Lyman/Ideal two cavity .45 cal bullet mold.
Procure some lead and a heat source and you’re good to go!

Bullet casting is the best bet for low cost, great shooting projectiles.

 

[BigMoneyGrip]

Perfect ammo for a slingshot. No way I'd send them down any of my barrels.

 

[mtgianni]

I am of the opinion that they won't hurt your gun to fire. As a long time bullet caster, I have learned that accuracy failures come about more from poor bases than poor noses. I would not expect decent expansion from those noses. To me they look like they were pulled with crimping pliers rather than a proper puller, collet or inertia types.

The only reason to shoot them is to stay in practice with an equal weight carry bullet. If the sellers calls these seconds, I would call them thirds or fourths.

 

[mikld]

Make sure you got good neck tension and just deflare (I don't "crimp" any of my semi-auto handloads. Just use a deflaring die, aka taper crimp die, enough to get good consistent plunks). Seat to recommended OAL, deflare and plunk...

 

[SVT28]

Well the vendor has offered for me to return the projectiles, shipping on their dime, for a refund. I’ll probably stick to new and blemished moving forward since I only reload small quantities at a time. I’ve bought 2k in 45 HST blems from the vendor and they have been excellent for reloading so I won’t feel bad about sending these back.

SVT28