BATF at it again! Magazine limits, rails, lights, etc

[Prepper]

Declaring that activities that were “generally recognized” as legitimate “sporting purposes in previous studies are not necessarily the same as those activities that are generally recognized as sporting purposes in the modern era,” the study outlines a number of features of shotguns wherein “sporting use” cannot apply, many of which are common in hunting and self-defense:

• Folding, telescoping, or collapsible stocks;

• bayonet lugs;

• flash suppressors;

• magazines over 5 rounds, or a drum magazine;

• grenade-launcher mounts;

• integrated rail systems (other than on top of the receiver or barrel);

• light enhancing devices;

• excessive weight (greater than 10 pounds for 12 gauge or smaller);

• excessive bulk (greater than 3 inches in width and/or greater than 4 inches in depth);

• forward pistol grips or other protruding parts designed or used for gripping the shotgun with the shooter’s extended hand.


Second Amendment Rights Once Again at Risk

 

[srgvaz]

The US - Mexico absurdity isn't helping anything either.

 

[Prepper]

I can't believe that more people aren't upset?

I guess everyone thinks this will only involve shotguns.

 

[stantheman86]

Excessive weight and bulk?!?!?!?

Now the ATF is gonna tell us our shotguns are too big, or too heavy????

You can't have one that's too short, or it's an SBR. Now what, you can't have one that's too long, too wide, or too heavy?

 

[carter357]

Excessive weight and bulk?!?!?!?

Now the ATF is gonna tell us our shotguns are too big, or too heavy????

You can't have one that's too short, or it's an SBR. Now what, you can't have one that's too long, too wide, or too heavy?

it's actually a SBS (short barrel shotgun) which is only a $5 dollar tax stamp to own

 

[Frailer]

it's actually a SBS (short barrel shotgun) which is only a $5 dollar tax stamp to own

A SBS requires a $200 tax stamp. You're thinking of a cut-down shotgun that was originally manufactured with a pistol grip rather than a shoulder stock. In that case the ATF considers it an AOW, not a SBS.

 

[GKC]

the study outlines a number of features of shotguns wherein “sporting use” cannot apply, many of which are common in hunting and self-defense:

• grenade-launcher mounts;

Well, darn...every good hunting or self-defense shotgun NEEDS a grenade launcher!

On a serious note, I have always wondered why it is a problem to have a forward grip on a shotgun? I mean, how can that possibly be a problem? I can understand (but don't agree with) how someone can conclude that extended magazine capacity might be a problem, just as an example, or a sawed off barrel, or a fully automatic weapon, but a forward grip?

I know, I am looking for logic and reason. Is there any?

 

[jlrhiner]

Did the article say that this was an interpretation for import guidelines? Are they aiming directly at Saiga?

 

[BillBingham2]

That's where I would place my bet. I have to say they do have a hi-cap mag that is hard to say has a use other than throwing massive amounts of lead or steel down range. Some sites have been warning of a ban for three weeks.

B2

 

[Harrison]

That's where I would place my bet. I have to say they do have a hi-cap mag that is hard to say has a use other than throwing massive amounts of lead or steel down range. Some sites have been warning of a ban for three weeks.

B2

Shoot an UPSA three gun match. You need a shotgun that can throw a massive amount of lead down range, without having to reload every 5 rounds. It has a sporting purpose. I imagine there are some tactical matchs that require a hi-cap shotgun.