Best Defence Ammo for a M&P Shield 9mm

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I am in a quandary as to what's the best defence Ammo to use in my 9mm, 3.1" barel doesn't give to much time for delivery speed. Does anyone have some input as to what and why they use their brand Ammo?!
Thx in advance !!
 
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Hi OP. Note i have limited experience compared to others on this but can say the defense rounds i work with in my PC Shield are Hornady Critical Defense. As i only use 115gn for range ammo, the CD both cycles fine and hits the same spots i aim at with my practice rounds.
 
A search for that post on this forum is a good start. My shield eats just about anything so any good name brand HP will do good.

I us hornady XTP is my shield 40 but I'm bgoing to switch to HST sometime soon. My wife runs hrdya shocks in her 9mm shield.

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Hornady critical defense is not a great round due to under penetration. Critical duty is a better round if your a critical ammo fan. Federal HST 124 grain standard pressure is an outstanding performer if not the best.
 
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HST 147 works well out of my shield. Ammo quest has great videos as already been mentioned.


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Boy talking about opening a can of worms you sure did...

Check Youtube..look for "ammo Quest Federal HST 9mm".

Your question will be answered there.......

I actually bought a box of the Federal HST for defense purposes (124 grain) after watching that very video. I've tested a couple of rounds on the range, and couldn't really tell any difference in the recoil from the 115 grain American Eagle that I use for my normal target practicing. I definitely plan on keeping this for my defensive carry.

Of course, to the OP, ammo is kind of like oil - everyone has an opinion on what is best. Ultimately, you'll probably want to test a few different rounds based on input from here and decide what is best for you. For defensive purposes, you need something that you will personally be comfortable with. That will not necessarily be the same for everyone.
 
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I was loyal to Hornady until recent testing proved that they are VERY inconsistent especially in 9mm. 45LC and ACP they are very consistent. So for 9mm I actually switched to Speer gold dot yesterday, my second choice would be Federal HST however I just heard that Federal is in big financial trouble so im not sure how I feel about them while that is happening.
 
I carry Remington Golden Sabers 124+P they feed 100% just like FMJ Ammo. Hope to never test them on anything other than with paper targets but based on research they should get the job done.
 
With all due respect to Rastoff, if you look at actual testing of ammo, it does make a difference what you use. Lucky Gunner has some great testing, with shorter barrel, real world carry guns. Several rounds are very good, several are very bad and a few are true stand outs. Take that info, compare it with other actual tests, select a few boxes of the top cboices and go verify it runs in your gun.

Use as many sources as you can, but this was a helpful and high volume source to start my evaluation.

http://www.luckygunner.com/labs/self-defense-ammo-ballistic-tests/

So far, the HST micro looks good, but as I reported back on another thread, the 150gr. Did shoot high in my gun and does not match the 147gt fmj prqctice ammo, so still working on my edc rounds. Continuing to use Hornady Critical Defense, as it performed OK in various tests and cycles, matches point of aim with my practice ammo
 
I'm a big fan of Federal HST 124gr +p. If it's good enough as my duty ammo, it's good enough for off duty carry. Also, I don't really think the +p gives that much more recoil then standard pressure, plus I like the extra velocity. With that said, I still wouldn't hesitate to carry standard pressure HST.
 
BTW, +p can be a huge performace benefit, based on your gun and fhe distances you are shooting. My Shield in other tests, performs poorly with +p as the barrel is to short to burn all the powder, full size 5" barrel is very different! Thats why we all need to evaluate, then test in our own guns!
 
I just shot a box of Ruger ARX defensive ammo. All I can say is my 9mm shield didn't perform well enough for me to feel safe carrying them. Two fail to fire, recoil was no different than my own 124 grain nosler HP and accuracy was disappointing. My reloads performed much better as did my Hornady critical defense
 
I have become a fan of 9mm Fiocchi XTP 115gr. My Shield is very accurate with it.
 
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Whatever you do, make sure that your self-defense rounds fire reliably in your Shield. For instance, many Shield owners like Federal HST ammo. However, in my Shield 9mm, HSTs tend to hang up on the bottom of the feed ramp, resulting in a 10% failure to feed rate. For me, the only acceptable failure rate for SD ammo is zero. Accordingly, I've shot a lot of SD ammo to determine which works best with my Shield. I adopted a standard that requires the ammo to fire at least 100 consecutive times without a failure of any kind.

Three of the brands I tested have passed the test: Hornady Critical Duty 135g +P has gone 174 rounds to date with no failures; Speer Gold Dot 124g +P has gone 147 rounds to date with no failures; and Remington Golden Saber 147g went 227 rounds before I experienced a failure to eject. Of these three, the Golden Sabers were the most accurate.

However, don't just take my word for it. Do your own testing and find out what works best in your Shield.

Good shooting!
 
With all due respect to Rastoff, if you look at actual testing of ammo, it does make a difference what you use.
No disrespect taken. I didn't say there wasn't a difference. I said the question is pointless. Let's look at it closer...

The original question was, "what's the best defense Ammo to use in my 9mm?" "Best" is always subjective. I can cite many situations where people were killed by a FMJ round. I can cite many situations where people were NOT killed by a JHP. Does that mean the JHP is not as good as the FMJ? Absolutely not! The only correct answer is we don't have enough data to draw a conclusion.

Ballistics gel is a good analog, but it's not a person. We're not defending ourselves from gel. We hear these phrases all the time:
  • Brand X has always been good for me.
  • I've always felt safe with brand Y.
  • Brand Z is well regarded.
  • The super frangilistic hooper point is used by the police so, that must be good.
  • The military uses hardball so, that must work, right?
Out of all those that say such things, how many have actually used whatever to stop a human? I'll bet none.

There is only one thing at the top of the list when it comes to a defensive gun: functional reliability. Absolutely everything else is a debatable quality. If the gun doesn't work, it's not a gun anymore, is it? If that new wonder round causes your gun to fail to cycle, then it's not worth spit.

Correlate that with the original question and it goes like this:
What's the best ammo for my X gun?
The ammo that most reliably functions in that gun.


So you have to test. Now the question becomes, how many rounds do I need to fire in order to verify the functionality of it in my gun? This is a widely accepted number and easily discovered.

Since nothing is ever 100% reliable, we must accept something less than 100%. Statistically that number is the 95% confidence level. To reach that level it is generally accepted that it takes 30 iterations of a process. This means 30 shots. However, since each position of a magazine represents new variables, each position must be tested. For a 10 round magazine, that's 30x10 or 300 rounds. If you have more than one magazine, multiply by the number of magazines.

Most people don't fire 600 rounds in their lifetime. Let alone do 600 rounds of testing with the super expensive special defensive uber expanding hollow point rounds. No, most people fire one magazine worth and declare that their gun cycles reliably and is 100% functional with said super round. Are you OK with that? Are you willing to trust your life to that? If you are, fine. I'm not.

Remember, we're not talking about what's good or good enough, we're talking about what's best. The best is what's going to work best in YOUR gun. Every round on the market will stop the threat if placed in the proper place. No round on the market will stop the threat if it doesn't fire or isn't placed where it will do serious damage.

To sum up, the BEST round is one that:
  1. Will function reliably in your gun.
  2. Hits the intended target. (This requires training and practice.)

Everything else is internet discussion fodder. Is a JHP better than an FMJ? Probably, but only if it's placed in the right place.
 
Since nothing is ever 100% reliable, we must accept something less than 100%. Statistically that number is the 95% confidence level. To reach that level it is generally accepted that it takes 30 iterations of a process....
Other things to take into account:
Many (if not most) Brands of SD ammo package in 20 boxes (some do sell in 50 round boxes), so to test a type, that means buying several boxes, just to test AND have enough to load all your mags.

Also... While it would be great if one could depend on uniformity forever, we often see reports of 'ammo from lot xyz has been found to be defective', or 'XYZ Brand is recalling Lot# 12345 manufactured between these dates...' So, unless you want to blindly trust that a brand's Super-Round will work (forever), one needs to test ammo from each different Lot# that they buy.

So once you find the Brand/Load that works reliably in your handgun, you'll probably want to buy enough from that particular Lot# to last you a while (a couple Hundred rounds
per purchase).
 
I will take into account all the testing and professional evaluation I can get before I start my personal testing process to determine what the best round for one of my guns may be. The hottest, fastest super head hunter zombie killer may cycle from my gun and group extremely well, but if there is little to no chance of expansion, it may not be nearly as effective when it comes time to defend me or dispatch a downed animal. I know hunting rounds are very different, but I have had two nearly identical shots on deer where one round expanded (found the round on the opposing, shattered ribcage). That deer did not take a step. Same gun, same load, different bullett the next night, through the ribcage, within an inch of point of impact of the prior evening, through and through (found the impact point of the round on both sides of the ribcage) and the deer ran for hours. I did recover it, but it was quite a different result. Both imperical testing and experience tells me the round I used on the first deer is more effective, all things being equal, than the second. Both were accurate, the second round happened to be in my speed loader from the night before and I didn't bother to swap it out (I knew the bullet was accurate from my testing). The deer ended up a 12pt, 250 lb. monster. There was testing and reports of the one bullet not reliably expanding and the other being very consistent in expansion. I will use the bullett proven to the "best" until I am faced with data telling me I should re-evaluate��
 

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