I'd like to start a discussion with gun owners in general but
I choose the 15-22 forum simply because I own one and it's relevant to my opinion on the discussion.
There is as most people on here know a nearly infinite amount of discussions based on whether
a 22 caliber firearm would make a good defense weapon, as most will admit it does not but any gun is better than no gun.
With that debate laid to rest I want to discuss what type of rifle would best in a realistic scenario if a major
catastrophic event should happen to our society. Without getting into the details of the scenarios such as likelyhood
I can throw out a few such as nuclear war, viral outbreaks, complete economical collapse,
major blackouts caused by coronal mass ejections, and the ever popular zombie outbreak. Ok kidding on that last one but you get the idea of the scenario I'm trying to paint, complete anarchy, riots, looting, something big enough that
it wont fix itself in a few days but rather months if not years.
I've had this discussion with my co-worker who himself owns several guns and rifles and is big on survival preparedness.
As myself I only own a colt defender 45 acp for my self defense weapon and an m&p 15-2 as my "fun gun".
I have been lately contemplating getting a larger caliber semi-auto for such worse case scenarios and discussing it with my co-worker as to which would be the best rifle to get, the two best obvious choices IMO would be between the m16 and the ak47.
My co-workers opinion has got me having second thought as to a higher caliber rifles as being the best choice in such scenarios and the M&P 15-22 being one of the best choices.
A 22 caliber semi-auto lr in a survival situation seems almost futile at first glance but considering the pro's and con's
of one compared to larger caliber semi's seems like the best choice.
The pros of how I see having a semi 22 cal. namely the m&p 15-22.
A 22 lr is lethal in spite of it being a small lower velocity round.
Lightweight both in the rifle and the rounds,
one can easily carry the rifle and thousands of rounds without an overbearing weight. How easy would it be to carry 1000's
of .223 or .308 caliber rounds.
Decent capacity magazines, 25 per mag makes room for misses without having to reload.
The cost of the rifle and the rounds can be afforded by most people.
In a long term catastrophe a small supply of ammo may not last very long and how many people keep let alone can afford
.223 or .308 sized ammo numbering in the thousands.
Good for hunting small game which will be essential in most catastrophic scenarios, a 22 lr makes a great
varmint killer, it might make a poor choice for larger animals such as deer but IMO small game will be
the best target for food since it's likely in a worse case scenario there would be no energy to keep larger game fresh.
And the 22 is the most commonly used caliber bullet making it more likely to find more after all stores/gunshops
have been looted for their goods.
The cons of how I see them with a m&p 15-22. Low powered Weak penetrating bullet, making it weak on quick kills, though no one would argue that a 22 lr is lethal.
A short lethal range giving you a disadvantage if up against someone with a high powered rifle greater than
100 yards.
And rimfires tend to be unreliable with some exception to cci which I have fired many of and never had one fail at all.
In a perfect world there would never be scenarios like these, in an almost perfect world there will be
but there would be complete calm and cooperation and everyone would work together in rebuilding society
with no violence. Unfortunately we do live in a world with major catastrophes that fall under the "when" not "what if"
events and as society has proven in the past not everyone reacts in a calm rational manner to these events.
These are just my thoughts and opinions as I see them. This maybe a little unorthodox of a discussion
for this forum but it's one that I like to hear the thoughts and opinions of the general gun owner since being prepared
for the worse as far as defending yourself in a major catastrophe should not be overlooked. Thanks for reading.
I choose the 15-22 forum simply because I own one and it's relevant to my opinion on the discussion.
There is as most people on here know a nearly infinite amount of discussions based on whether
a 22 caliber firearm would make a good defense weapon, as most will admit it does not but any gun is better than no gun.
With that debate laid to rest I want to discuss what type of rifle would best in a realistic scenario if a major
catastrophic event should happen to our society. Without getting into the details of the scenarios such as likelyhood
I can throw out a few such as nuclear war, viral outbreaks, complete economical collapse,
major blackouts caused by coronal mass ejections, and the ever popular zombie outbreak. Ok kidding on that last one but you get the idea of the scenario I'm trying to paint, complete anarchy, riots, looting, something big enough that
it wont fix itself in a few days but rather months if not years.
I've had this discussion with my co-worker who himself owns several guns and rifles and is big on survival preparedness.
As myself I only own a colt defender 45 acp for my self defense weapon and an m&p 15-2 as my "fun gun".
I have been lately contemplating getting a larger caliber semi-auto for such worse case scenarios and discussing it with my co-worker as to which would be the best rifle to get, the two best obvious choices IMO would be between the m16 and the ak47.
My co-workers opinion has got me having second thought as to a higher caliber rifles as being the best choice in such scenarios and the M&P 15-22 being one of the best choices.
A 22 caliber semi-auto lr in a survival situation seems almost futile at first glance but considering the pro's and con's
of one compared to larger caliber semi's seems like the best choice.
The pros of how I see having a semi 22 cal. namely the m&p 15-22.
A 22 lr is lethal in spite of it being a small lower velocity round.
Lightweight both in the rifle and the rounds,
one can easily carry the rifle and thousands of rounds without an overbearing weight. How easy would it be to carry 1000's
of .223 or .308 caliber rounds.
Decent capacity magazines, 25 per mag makes room for misses without having to reload.
The cost of the rifle and the rounds can be afforded by most people.
In a long term catastrophe a small supply of ammo may not last very long and how many people keep let alone can afford
.223 or .308 sized ammo numbering in the thousands.
Good for hunting small game which will be essential in most catastrophic scenarios, a 22 lr makes a great
varmint killer, it might make a poor choice for larger animals such as deer but IMO small game will be
the best target for food since it's likely in a worse case scenario there would be no energy to keep larger game fresh.
And the 22 is the most commonly used caliber bullet making it more likely to find more after all stores/gunshops
have been looted for their goods.
The cons of how I see them with a m&p 15-22. Low powered Weak penetrating bullet, making it weak on quick kills, though no one would argue that a 22 lr is lethal.
A short lethal range giving you a disadvantage if up against someone with a high powered rifle greater than
100 yards.
And rimfires tend to be unreliable with some exception to cci which I have fired many of and never had one fail at all.
In a perfect world there would never be scenarios like these, in an almost perfect world there will be
but there would be complete calm and cooperation and everyone would work together in rebuilding society
with no violence. Unfortunately we do live in a world with major catastrophes that fall under the "when" not "what if"
events and as society has proven in the past not everyone reacts in a calm rational manner to these events.
These are just my thoughts and opinions as I see them. This maybe a little unorthodox of a discussion
for this forum but it's one that I like to hear the thoughts and opinions of the general gun owner since being prepared
for the worse as far as defending yourself in a major catastrophe should not be overlooked. Thanks for reading.
