I tried to send you a PM but it seems to be shut off??
Please send me one if you can. Thanks!
Please send me one if you can. Thanks!
Calling Smith Crazy, Skip, you out there?
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acl864
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Unfortunately, I think Skip resigned his membership here. He used to be active at the Pro-Guns forum so you might try there.
OP
I thinks it's time for everyone involved to step back and take a deep breath, It's just a forum and sometimes personalities clash. There are far more important things to worry about.
Hope it all works out.
Now, anyone want some Milk and Cookies?
Hope it all works out.
Now, anyone want some Milk and Cookies?
Skip Sackett
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Andy, Roy,
I'm still here. Lee must not have seen my request yet!
Roy, I got your voice mail and am headed out. I'll be busy for several hours. I sent you a pm with an email.
What length did you decide on for those bullets I sent? 1.250" or so?
I'm still here. Lee must not have seen my request yet!
Roy, I got your voice mail and am headed out. I'll be busy for several hours. I sent you a pm with an email.
What length did you decide on for those bullets I sent? 1.250" or so?
acl864
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I hope you reconsider Skip.
Forester
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Me too. 
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Skip, hope you stay around. I really enjoy your posts. Be well.
dennis40x
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In a moment of a hasty decision he asked to have his account/membership terminated. Being banned from the forum I'm not certain of that. Unless there was privileged communication that we have no knowledge that's the way it went.
He will be missed true.
OP
I called him and sent a e mail but have not heard back.
Banned? I sorta read the "hot" thread, but unless he sent some really bad PM's it all seems very sad to get this bent out of shape over a post in a gun forum.
I am sure he didn't send any "bad PM's". That is just not Skip. But he did say Banned and that he can't see the forum, so I don't know. In his profile all I see different really is that the contact info has been removed.
But the truth is Skip didn't want to be on the forum anymore. Not so much because of something that was said in A post but because of a perceived downturn in the quality of the forum. A perception that many share. Most of us can think of many good people that don't participate anymore. That is our loss.
But if participation in a forum gets where it is more trouble than it is worth or if it results in being upset whats the point? Life is too short and there are many other things to do. Some unpleasantness in life must be endured, but this isn't one of them.
But the truth is Skip didn't want to be on the forum anymore. Not so much because of something that was said in A post but because of a perceived downturn in the quality of the forum. A perception that many share. Most of us can think of many good people that don't participate anymore. That is our loss.
But if participation in a forum gets where it is more trouble than it is worth or if it results in being upset whats the point? Life is too short and there are many other things to do. Some unpleasantness in life must be endured, but this isn't one of them.
acl864
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That's a shame. I always enjoyed his posts. His enthusiasm for casting his own bullets and the great casting videos he posted here were two primary reasons I just purchased casting equipment and started casting my own bullets.
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I just got off the phone with him and it is exactly as you state above.
Too bad for the forum as he has a lot of practical knowledge to share. I for one have learned much from him and will continue to elsewhere and by other means.
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i also hope he will reconsider as i also learned a lot from him
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Sounds a tad immature to allow one jerk to ruin your time on a forum.
I have read some of his stuff. Seems knowledgeable enough.
He did seem to care about "newbies". In a day and age when most folks only care about themselves, that was a bit of fresh air!
Best to him as he moves on!
I have read some of his stuff. Seems knowledgeable enough.
He did seem to care about "newbies". In a day and age when most folks only care about themselves, that was a bit of fresh air!
Best to him as he moves on!
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smith crazy asked me in a PM to remove his account.
I responded with the statememnt that I could do that, and asked "What's wrong?".
His reply was that it was simply time to move on.
He was not "Banned" in the true sense of the word. You will notice that 'Banned' is not beneath his name. Generally speaking, the software offers the ability to have an account be active or disabled. We don't have multiple options like 'moved on', 'resigned', 'on hiatus', or 'vacationing'. Active or Disabled.
Granted, a disabled account apparently sees the same thing a regular Banned account sees.
I thought I had disabled his account a few days ago, but I apparently screwed it up and failed to do so. Per his request, I did disable it yesterday.
Whether you realize it or not, we are reluctant to ban people. Most folks, with the exception of bona fide trolls, are offered a chance to conform to the standards of the board. Some have been offered multiple chances.
Likewise, we hate to see old members move on, but I have never believed I could please all of the people all of the time. When a member becomes discontented enough to ask for the account to be closed, I eventually comply, because by then we probably have a pot that will eventually boil over.
Speaking in general here, NOT about smith crazy or anyone else in particular-
I don't see the point in getting so wound up in forum posting that one cannot treat people with normal courtesy, and ignore people you don't like and will probably never lay eyes on or even swap emails with. If you learn to use the "IGNORE" feature in your User CP, keep your posts non-personal, and quit worrying about what "They" are saying about you, you can effectively make an unliked personality cease to exist.
Trust me, if I was thin-skinned, I would have quit the second day after taking over.
We don't ask much of you here, beyond-
common courtesy, including normal consideration and respect for differing opinions.......
a 'clean' atmosphere suitable for mixed company.......
a reasonable attempt to keep the peace, even when disagreeing.....(kinda like not being allowed to "verbally" punch, stab, or shoot other members)
Don't immediately apply the worst possible interpretation to a rather vaguely worded post. You have probably needed that 'benefit of the doubt' extended to you once or twice in life.
If you interact within those parameters, your participation here is pretty much as enjoyable or as stressful as you decide it will be.
If participation here is stressful, perhaps the problem does not lie in the software or the board management. You won't change the world here. I seriously doubt you will change many minds already predisposed toward any certain philosophy.
I responded with the statememnt that I could do that, and asked "What's wrong?".
His reply was that it was simply time to move on.
He was not "Banned" in the true sense of the word. You will notice that 'Banned' is not beneath his name. Generally speaking, the software offers the ability to have an account be active or disabled. We don't have multiple options like 'moved on', 'resigned', 'on hiatus', or 'vacationing'. Active or Disabled.
Granted, a disabled account apparently sees the same thing a regular Banned account sees.
I thought I had disabled his account a few days ago, but I apparently screwed it up and failed to do so. Per his request, I did disable it yesterday.
Whether you realize it or not, we are reluctant to ban people. Most folks, with the exception of bona fide trolls, are offered a chance to conform to the standards of the board. Some have been offered multiple chances.
Likewise, we hate to see old members move on, but I have never believed I could please all of the people all of the time. When a member becomes discontented enough to ask for the account to be closed, I eventually comply, because by then we probably have a pot that will eventually boil over.
Speaking in general here, NOT about smith crazy or anyone else in particular-
I don't see the point in getting so wound up in forum posting that one cannot treat people with normal courtesy, and ignore people you don't like and will probably never lay eyes on or even swap emails with. If you learn to use the "IGNORE" feature in your User CP, keep your posts non-personal, and quit worrying about what "They" are saying about you, you can effectively make an unliked personality cease to exist.
Trust me, if I was thin-skinned, I would have quit the second day after taking over.
We don't ask much of you here, beyond-
common courtesy, including normal consideration and respect for differing opinions.......
a 'clean' atmosphere suitable for mixed company.......
a reasonable attempt to keep the peace, even when disagreeing.....(kinda like not being allowed to "verbally" punch, stab, or shoot other members)
Don't immediately apply the worst possible interpretation to a rather vaguely worded post. You have probably needed that 'benefit of the doubt' extended to you once or twice in life.
If you interact within those parameters, your participation here is pretty much as enjoyable or as stressful as you decide it will be.
If participation here is stressful, perhaps the problem does not lie in the software or the board management. You won't change the world here. I seriously doubt you will change many minds already predisposed toward any certain philosophy.
OP
After speaking with Skip today on the phone, I concur with what Lee has posted above. I do not think he will mind me saying, as he is that kind of guy, he felt it was his issues and not that of any other person(s).
He felt it was things that he had to work on himself and no bad feelings towards the forum or any member.
Thanks Lee for clarifying the situation.
He felt it was things that he had to work on himself and no bad feelings towards the forum or any member.
Thanks Lee for clarifying the situation.
Lee, I appreciate you taking the time to explain why Skip can't see the forum anymore. I already knew that he wanted to quit the forum, but I thought he might like to view it sometimes.
Sometimes I don't feel like participating so I don't. Later I feel like participating so I do. It's that simple. It can be done easily enough without asking to be deleted. Forever solutions to temporary problems can fix your problems but it still isn't always the best way.
I especially appreciate your reminding members of the IGNORE feature. I have used it more than once and it sure does work fine. And no I don't go take a look-see to see what the other person said. Ignored people do not exist anymore. Not on this screen. The forum is for all members, but this computer was bought and paid for by me. My computer has a lot of buttons and it connects me to many good features on this forum. Like the IGNORE button. It would be a shame not to use all of the features. Now if I could just learn to read all of the language translations offered at the top of the page. (LOL)
At any rate I do wish Skip well. He is a knowledgeable handloader and a fine Christian gentleman. He will surely be missed on this forum.
Sometimes I don't feel like participating so I don't. Later I feel like participating so I do. It's that simple. It can be done easily enough without asking to be deleted. Forever solutions to temporary problems can fix your problems but it still isn't always the best way.
I especially appreciate your reminding members of the IGNORE feature. I have used it more than once and it sure does work fine. And no I don't go take a look-see to see what the other person said. Ignored people do not exist anymore. Not on this screen. The forum is for all members, but this computer was bought and paid for by me. My computer has a lot of buttons and it connects me to many good features on this forum. Like the IGNORE button. It would be a shame not to use all of the features. Now if I could just learn to read all of the language translations offered at the top of the page. (LOL)
At any rate I do wish Skip well. He is a knowledgeable handloader and a fine Christian gentleman. He will surely be missed on this forum.
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jrplourde
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Logic here
Logic here says than Skip was so active, concerned and helpful that something set him off to leave, not something casual. There is no other answer. I hope that he can resolve the issue cus I sure miss his inputs and I'll bet he misses the opportunity to help as well. Skip, keep an eye open.
Bob
Logic here says than Skip was so active, concerned and helpful that something set him off to leave, not something casual. There is no other answer. I hope that he can resolve the issue cus I sure miss his inputs and I'll bet he misses the opportunity to help as well. Skip, keep an eye open.
Bob
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Hoptob
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It's sad to see Skip moving on. Skip is a friend. In 2 years since joining this forum, I grew accustomed to his knowledgeable, honest and good natured posts.
Skip, I wish you well. You will be missed.
Mike
Skip, I wish you well. You will be missed.
Mike
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