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We will be taking a road trip to Montana and I would like to carry on the trip. Here is the snag. We would like to pop over the Canadian border for less than a day, just a few hours really, and I know I can't take the gun. Would a PD hold it? I hate to get them involved as it might be hard to get it back. Would the border crossing personnel hold it? Better just to leave it home?
 
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You will find that most of the PD in Montana have no problem with guns and I highly doubt it would be a problem for them to hold it for you. Montana is a very gun friendly state and if you went to a PD or sheriffs office and asked I bet they would gladly oblige and wouldn't hassle you at all. You don't even need a permit to have a loaded pistol in your car in Montana. Not uncommon at all. All the border towns are small and pretty relaxed and easy going. If you know which town you are going to depart from I might be able to help. My brother in law has a sporting goods/optical shop on the high line. Glasses and guns in one spot. LOL
 
Scobey is out of my range of travel, but, I could ask my next door neighbor, who is a deputy sheriff what he thinks and if he knows anyone in that area. I think it would be fine. Scobey only has a little over 1,000 people and everyone knows everyone. Small Montana town LEOs are usually very friendly and helpful. Let me ask my neighbor his opinion first but, you could call and ask the Daniels Co. Sheriff (406) 487-2691 (Daniels County Chamber Of Commerce)
The sheriffs in Montana pretty much run their county and they generally run them as the people of the county want them run and if they are jerks they don't get reelected.You might have to drop them off and pick them up during the day because in some of the small counties there is nobody on duty at night and in the unlikely event of a crime you have to wake up the local law. I don't know about now but, many of tthe small border crossings are closed at night anyway.

For that matter, while the sheriffs office would probably be best, my experience is you could probably drop them off somewhere like the local gas station and pick them up later. Montanans are as a whole are very willing to help people and very casual about guns. If you got a motel room you could probably just leave them at the office. If you have a business in a small Montana town and aren't honest and helpful you won't have a business very long.
 
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steelslaver said:
You will find that most of the PD in Montana have no problem with guns and I highly doubt it would be a problem for them to hold it for you. Montana is a very gun friendly state and if you went to a PD or sheriffs office and asked I bet they would gladly oblige and wouldn't hassle you at all. You don't even need a permit to have a loaded pistol in your car in Montana. Not uncommon at all. All the border towns are small and pretty relaxed and easy going. If you know which town you are going to depart from I might be able to help. My brother in law has a sporting goods/optical shop on the high line. Glasses and guns in one spot. LOL
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I think I would contact the PD before I did the trip, and if OK, get a contact point. Might not work out well if you just show up and want to leave a firearm with them without advanced notice, you may not make it to Canada. If that doesn't work maybe a LGS or something like that.
 
Can't use an LGS, as if they take in a gun it has to go on the books and they could not give it back to him since he is not a Montana resident. A forum member would be one of the better choices, as would some form of commercial storage locker.
 
I'm not a resident and would only need it for a few hours. That coupled with a border crossing would look suspicious if somehow put together.
 
This is a serious exception to my usual practice of doing ask, don't tell, but for that concern, the answer is to explain it to the bank manager as you do it. I'm not sure which would be the bigger risk, but it's your concern, not mine.
 
Any pawn shops in those towns? I aint above using unconventional methods like meeting a local preacher or whatever it takes, but the one thing I wouldnt do is try hiding it in a vehicle.
 
You could also rent a locker at an airport/bus depot/train station if there any close to where you are crossing.
 
Stash it in the woods under a rotten hollow log. Leave a note on the very off chance someone finds it, explaining you will be back to retrieve them when you return from Canada.
 
Scobey has just over 1000 people. No train, bus or real airport and its all wheat fields so no woods. It might have a gun shop, but probably no pawn shop and the kicker is its probably the biggest place around for about 70 or 80 miles.
 
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I doubt any police or sheriff's dept will hold your gun. Since they are close to the border they have probably been asked this before. They don't want to setup a policy of becoming a gun drop off and hold station. I can tell you from experience that when we had residents going to Canada via Washington state the agency accepting the gun immediately boxed it and shipped it to us. We entered it as property identifying the owner who then would pick it up on return. The owner was charged for shipping when he handed the weapon over. Rent a hotel room farther away that has an in room safe it wont be more than shipping charges
 
how about burying it in a waterproof container just dont forget where. or just dont bring it at all im sure you will not be going to any high risk areas. or at least you hope your not good luck have fun on trip
 
I talked to my neighbor the deputy sheriff. He said that although they haven't got any provision for storing a gun for somebody here, the sheriffs office in Scobey might help a guy out if you called them. If not at their office they might know a place. We are a long ways from the border here and nobody here has any need to hand over a gun. He did laugh and say here everybody has a gun and nobody thinks anything about it. He hasn't gone across himself in years.
 
steelslaver said:
You will find that most of the PD in Montana have no problem with guns and I highly doubt it would be a problem for them to hold it for you. Montana is a very gun friendly state and if you went to a PD or sheriffs office and asked I bet they would gladly oblige and wouldn't hassle you at all. You don't even need a permit to have a loaded pistol in your car in Montana. Not uncommon at all. All the border towns are small and pretty relaxed and easy going. If you know which town you are going to depart from I might be able to help. My brother in law has a sporting goods/optical shop on the high line. Glasses and guns in one spot. LOL
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Dang, I like the sound of Montana!:D If only it wasn't so cold...
 
We will be facing the same situation later this year in traveling to Boston and back. We want to jump over the border for a day to see Niagara Falls, and plan on locking our carry guns in a the gun-vault from our truck in our hotel room.
 
Huh?

Hope you mean BUFFALO. Boston is a long way from Niagara Falls. :confused:

Be safe.

Thunderhawk88 said:
We will be facing the same situation later this year in traveling to Boston and back. We want to jump over the border for a day to see Niagara Falls, and plan on locking our carry guns in a the gun-vault from our truck in our hotel room.
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^ Considering that they will be coming from Kansas to Boston, NF is a relatively short side jaunt. However, unless you are LE and thus covered by LEOSA, you can't POSSESS a handgun in NY, let alone carry it. Even if covered by LEOSA, you are not exempt from the (oh gag me) "SAFE" act, unless you are a fed or NY officer (active or retired).

Back to the original inquiry, one poster advised: "how about burying it in a waterproof container just dont forget where. or just dont bring it at all im sure you will not be going to any high risk areas. or at least you hope your not good luck have fun on trip".

WRONG. There are only "unknown risk" areas; some with higher odds. The better answer, if a hard choice has to be made, would be to skip going to Canada if you can't find a way to store the gun.
 
zzzippper said:
We will be taking a road trip to Montana and I would like to carry on the trip. Here is the snag. We would like to pop over the Canadian border for less than a day, just a few hours really, and I know I can't take the gun. Would a PD hold it? I hate to get them involved as it might be hard to get it back. Would the border crossing personnel hold it? Better just to leave it home?
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How are you coming through MT? I'm near Helena and Great Falls. I'd happily HOLD it for you or can probably assist in some way.
I'm retired from the Hwy Patrol and I've left my sidearm at US Customs offices at the border a few times headed up to Waterton Park in Canada.

FN in MT
 
The Big D said:
Hope you mean BUFFALO. Boston is a long way from Niagara Falls. :confused:

Be safe.
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Nope, I mean Boston. Born and raised there, so we're planning a road trip from Kansas to Quantico Va. (I was stationed there), then a day or so in DC, up to Boston, then out through upstate NY, visit Niagara Falls, then wind our way home.
 
Thunderhawk88 said:
We will be facing the same situation later this year in traveling to Boston and back. We want to jump over the border for a day to see Niagara Falls, and plan on locking our carry guns in a the gun-vault from our truck in our hotel room.
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I live outside of Cleveland Ohio which is only a few hours from Buffalo and would be happy to hold a fellow forum members firearm for them while they go to Niagra Falls. Not sure if you planned to take the gun all the way through NY State and into Mass so might be easier to leave it here than to back track from NF too Cleveland then back to NY.
 
Skip Canada...Perfect answer....Don't spend any Yankee money there and don't go....They have very strict laws about handguns...We have to obey their laws if we cross the border....Best answer is just don't go..The people in Montana are great folks....Keeping a non owned gun would be somewhere in their laws ..Probably>>> Just might cause some well meaning Montana citizen a legal problem...I don't know that but....Gun shop would be out as as soon as they take your handgun they then would have to fill out the federal law received hand gun receipt as if you traded it It then becomes theirs by rule of law and how would you get it back??......I really don't know.....You never know what circumstance could come up. Check with the Montana Attorney Generals office.......Prior to leaving....Or as I said forget Canada...The US Customs office would be great if they would do it....I imagine that would be at THEIR DISCRETION..GOOD LUCK!
 
In this day and age you are lucky you are able to get a gun back from the manufacturer, gunsmith or FFL without going through a background check. In NY we are on the way to background checks for every transaction involving firearms.

You guys in free states are blissfully naïve of how bad it can and will get.
 
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