choosing a s&w revolver for a green beret for ccw.

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Dear Smith and Wesson Forum im an amateur writing and i am working on a writing project, Its a love story about an U.S. Army green Beret and beautiful F.B.I. agent. the green beret character carries a s&w revolver for as his ccw gun when he is not in uniform. I have two revolvers in mind for the character, i am not certain which one to chose. the revolver choices are either A. s&w model 686 .357 magnum with a 4 inch barrel. B. s&w model 60 .357 magnum revolver with a 3 inch barrel. Any and all help with this would be greatly appreciated sincerely and respectfully mg357 a proud member of the Smith and Wesson Forum.
 
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How about a 696? 3" L Frame 44 special. Smaller than the 4"686 you mentioned, especially for CCW, and no denying the cool factor or efficiency of the choice . . . ;)

Though, if we're constrained to the original choices I'd have to say go with the model 60 in .357.
 
Love story...

Get Him a Performance center 3 inch 686 "Carry Comp"
Stainless Steel,7 shot,Trijicon night sights,ported barrell...
VERY cool gun.
 
You don't mention a timeframe for your story. When I first entered the Army in the early '70s, my first assignment was to a support unit attached to an SF group. Didn't know (see) many SF guys with revolvers. IIRC, there were a couple of them with S&W Model 19 Combat Magnums. Short barreled, maybe 2 or 3 inches.

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I'd say the 4 inch 686 is a little large for easy concealed carry. It would have a square butt grip and be difficult to conceal. I would go with a model 66 with 3 inch barrel instead. It is a lighter gun, but still a full-fledged .357 magnum with 6 rounds, as would befit your hero.

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It should be some kind of .45 ACP revolver using moonclips. If the late great Bill Jordan could clear Japanese from caves using a Model 1917 during WWII, then a 625 is worthy of any Green Beret.

Dave Sinko
 
Model 66, "Lady Smith" that belonged to his dearly departed mother, sister, girlfriend, ........, who was killed because the state she lived in didn't allowed CCW. Surely a Green Beret would be man enough to carry something like this.
 
The M60 is the small J frame, holds five rounds, and is really meant to be a hideout. The 2" does best here, but the 3" would be easier to shoot accurately.

The 686 is the larger L frame size, which holds six to seven rounds, depending on which version. This will be easier to shoot accurately, and will conceal with some thought and effort - absent any medical or similar issues preventing the use of this pistol.

Assuming your Green Beret is still healthy, and has combat experience, I would think he has already lost the 5 or 10 plus pounds of gut that many of us have, and also already understands that carrying a pound or so of handgun is much, much easier than carrying that gut or all the gear he took into battle.

Of your two choices, if he is healthy and serious, I'd say the 4" 686; maybe have S&W's Performance center tune it.

And yeah, I'd like to see the time frame of the story match up with whatever equipment he uses.

Just my opinion, and worth about what it cost.
 
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mg357, I would like to know the age and size of the man, and how long ago did he get his Scarborough? How many years is he in for? Tell us about his physique. Why does he carry and where?

Rambo carried his knife.
 
A lot would depend on the time frame and the setting (CONUS, overseas, war or peacetime, etc.). During 'Nam and for several years following (frequent forays into "Banana Republic" countries in Central and South America for various agencies), I carried, in addition to issue weapons (in a "declared" war zone) a 4" Model 15 in .38 Spl in a shoulder rig beneath my fatigue blouse - also carried a 6.5" Mod 29 .44 Mag the same way, but it was much more difficult to conceal, and ammo availability was zip outside CONUS. When stateside, I often carried a 4" Python. Later on, I was in a reserve unit (not SF any more, branch transferred to Medical Service Corps in the late '70s) which was a rapid deployment outfit. When President Carter was conducting the "peace talks" between the Egyptians, Palestinians and Israelis (the Camp David Accords) in, IIRC, the late '70s or early '80s, I was the XO of of the unit, and we were getting ALNOTs (Alert Notices) almost every other day, looked like we were going to the desert (it was a much hairier time than was ever reported to or by the press, and he had put us squarely in the middle of it). I picked up a 2.5" Model 66 to carry concealed, should we be deployed (again, in a shoulder rig beneath my fatigue blouse). Fortunately, we were not deployed, and I didn't have to use it in the battlefield, though I know from experience with my 15 it would have done well if the need arose. The choice of .357 is a good idea, as .38 Spl ammo is (or at least used to be) available through Army supply channels (.357 Mag, of course, is not), so ammo re-supply should not be a major concern, at least theoretically, especially if he has a "Get out of jail free" card (do they even have them anymore?). Anyway, of the two mentioned, I would gravitate toward the 686, as it is not that much more difficult to conceal than a 3" Model 60 (the 3" barrel decreases its potential for pocket carry, so either would require a good holster for concealment). Grip selection would be critical, though, with a good set of aftermarket "combat" style wood grips replacing the stock S&W target stocks making it much easier to conceal. The size, capacity, accuracy, reliability and overall ruggedness of the 686 lend themselves to the mindset of a troop experienced in combat, especially anybody with a "black ops" background. Good luck with your project.
 
My son is a jar-head and been to the sand box twice and took a 625 45acp with him both times, they like the 45 the best. I would pick the SSR 686 myself, but I know service men like the 45 - ask any of them on here :D .
 
how about the S&W 500 mag! he can use a shoulder holster and shoot it one handed like "make my day" callahan...

only with the 500 it may really blow the bad guys head completely off:D
 
Unless he's Delta or on some sort of special assignment, soldiers aren't generally authorized weapons to carry when not on duty. Some commands prohibit soldiers from even carrying off post (most notably Alaska). Living or working on post, it's a pain to carry a personally owned weapon, at least these days, on any post where security isn't lax. Getting caught doing it on base leads to problems. Mileage may vary a bit for officers and specwar types.

If he's working private industry or off the books, Glock 19s are commonly seen. Unless he's old, the .357 mag has fallen from favor. The hot personally owned weapon currently is the FN 5.7 followed by 1911s, various and sundry Glocks, Sigs, and what not.
 
The Special Forces (Green Berets) Friends I knew could do as well with their hands and feet than a regular guy could with a handgun.
A revolver?? I think that a Colt Model 1911A1 or a Browning P-35 would be more in line with this guy.
 
After reading this again I've had a change of heart. I'd go with a 1911 in .45 ACP. Not one of the 2k jobs with all the non needed extras. A plain jane with a good set of sights, decent trigger, beveled mag well and 4, 8 round mags would handle most situations (Springfield Mil Spec:)). It's the weapon I've been carrying since 1990 for self protection and carried on duty since 1978 before the military in their not so great wisdom went with the M9, which was a bad move IMO. Eight shots versus 6, more accurate thanks to the longer sight radius and way faster to reload.

The 1911 is recognized worldwide with plenty of parts to swap out if needed, ammo is plentiful and potent plus with proper maintenance is one reliable weapon.

If it had to be a S&W I'd suggest a 3" 686 CS-1 with a gold bead front sight and 4 speedstrips or speed loaders. That is a fighting handgun with incredible accuracy and killing properties.
I'd still go with the 1911, but it is your brainchild. Bet he would too:D!
 
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It should be some kind of .45 ACP revolver using moonclips. If the late great Bill Jordan could clear Japanese from caves using a Model 1917 during WWII, then a 625 is worthy of any Green Beret.

Dave Sinko
This is a great idea. Time frame? Even if not chronologically correct. .45 ACP will never be a wrong choice when the targets are human.I would prefer a blue steel model like the model 25. I don't know why a sound 1917 wouldn't be a good choice even today.
 
My son is a jar-head and been to the sand box twice and took a 625 45acp with him both times, they like the 45 the best. I would pick the SSR 686 myself, but I know service men like the 45 - ask any of them on here :D .

How did he get away with that or was it a issue gun?
 
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