Colorado is truly lost

[S&W Fan]

There have been a number of gun related bills introduced this session. Right now looks like we'll be getting a 3 day waiting period (currently have the NICS/CBI insta-check system which runs anywhere from 5 minutes to whenever depending on gunshows etc-right now it's about 30 minutes).

We lost private sales without a ffl in July of 2013. There's an "assault weapon" ban working its way through the legislature also, along with one or two more. We already have a poorly written "red flag" law and 15rd mag capacity limit (typically used as an add on to other charges).

I laugh when people say "you should move"-much easier said than done considering extended family/health or financial issues.

I used to love living here, sigh. Thanks for reading.

 

[gmarshall99]

We will have to sue, like is happenning in ny, nj, maryland, ca,or, and wa. I wish the us supreme court would step up an stop all this unconstitutional legislation for once and for all.
Help the cause by joining or supporting the second amendment foundation, rocky mountain gun owners, or the 2A group of your choice.

 

[Rpg]

I'm a Colorado native: lived here all my life.

Things have changed a bit over the years.

The biggest change is the availability of access to hunting land. In the last 40-50 years a lot of family ranches and farms have been .sold to large corporations. Discovering the proper person to get permission from is a multi day process and often I come up with nothing: the corporate structure has no one designed as having the ability to grant that permission.

Lots of places I used to hunt have been made into pretty expensive hunting properties. For years 8 of us had a hunting lease of a mile and a half of the South Platte for $800 per year.

When the owner died and the property sold, we were offered the lease for $25,000 per year. Unfortunately, none of us could afford it.

Magazine capacity limits don't affect me: I use a. 1911. I've no need for more than 8 in the magazine. I'm not a black gun guy so don't care about AR platforms. If anything, they and their users annoy me: magazine dumps aren't the kind of shooting I do.

I AM annoyed with the banning of private sales. It adds expense and inconvenience to the transaction.

I suspect we'll see some litigation if the legislation passes. I don't think some of the most extreme elements of the legislation will survive that litigation.

 

[LoboGunLeather]

We will have to sue, like is happenning in ny, nj, maryland, ca,or, and wa. I wish the us supreme court would step up an stop all this unconstitutional legislation for once and for all.
Help the cause by joining or supporting the second amendment foundation, rocky mountain gun owners, or the 2A group of your choice.

Many of the elements of these new bills have been litigated in the past, and courts have ruled against states attempting to impose similar restrictions.

Could it be that this is being done with the purpose being to force us to spend years and piles of cash in litigation?

Could it be that certain persons or groups simply wish to polish their credentials for further career moves by enacting legislation they should know will not withstand constitutional challenges?

Are we reacting simply as pawns in the game?

I have lots of questions, but not enough answers.

 

[s&wchad]

I deleted a number of replies. The 2A forum is NOT here to bemoan changes in various States. It's here to inform members about pending legislation concerning our 2A rights, so they can take appropriate action.

If you're a Colorado resident, contact your elected officials. Join and support the NRA.

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[S&W Fan]

I would echo s&wchad in that if any of the Colorado folks are not supporting any of the organizations fighting locally and nationwide please do so.

I may not have any use for a shotgun but if any legislation came along to ban them I would fight it-it's not the gun it's the right. Rant off.

 

[ladder13]

I would echo s&wchad in that if any of the Colorado folks are not supporting any of the organizations fighting locally and nationwide please do so.

I may not have any use for a shotgun but if any legislation came along to ban them I would fight it-it's not the gun it's the right. Rant off.

Yeah, just cause I don't like your blunderbuss I support your right to own one.

 

[pharmer]

Florida is otherwise known as "The Gunshine State. We have however:
1) 3 day wait since the 20th century. CWP cancels wait not BGC. If you're mad right now, tough luck. No dig deal.
2) AWB- we had one for 10 years, only prices were affected. No big deal.
3) WE have "Red Flag" law. You gotta be bug-nutz-bezerk, waving an AK naked in downtown for it to kick in. No big deal.
4) Mag capacity limits. My son lives in ElPaso county and they got no stinkin' mag capacity rules. I figure many counties will opt out. No big deal.
Nobody should move because of gun laws. Cali, NY, NJ, Maryland should be left because they are left. Stand your ground. Joe

 

[BRL40]

...Magazine capacity limits don't affect me: I use a. 1911. I've no need for more than 8 in the magazine. I'm not a black gun guy so don't care about AR platforms. If anything, they and their users annoy me: magazine dumps aren't the kind of shooting I do...

...and when they came for my 1911...

I am a black gun guy, turns out these things can be made to be quite accurate.

I shoot slow and deliberate, but mag dumps keep ammo and reloading suppliers in business.

I don't like laws aimed at gun shops and law abiding gun owning Americans while criminals continue to commit gun crimes anyway.

...interesting forum name Rpg.

 

[serger]

My wife's a greenie and We still have relatives in CO.
We moved out in 2014 just after the mag ban went
into effect in 2013.

Having said that, the legislators can pass all the feel
good laws they want but unless you are living in the
city and county Of Denver or Boulder county and
parts of Jeffco, a lot of those laws aren't going to be
enforced unless you're tagged for something else.

Ya'll need to become members of Rocky Mountain
Gun Owners Association. I "think" the TRO they
got from Judge Charlotte Sweeney for the stuff
Boulder county pulled along with the city of Boulder
and Louisville is still in effect.

Get off the fourth point of contact and make the
clowns enacting this offal miserable. It's doable
if you make it happen.

 

[luvsmiths]

I'm a Colorado native: lived here all my life.

Things have changed a bit over the years.

The biggest change is the availability of access to hunting land. In the last 40-50 years a lot of family ranches and farms have been .sold to large corporations. Discovering the proper person to get permission from is a multi day process and often I come up with nothing: the corporate structure has no one designed as having the ability to grant that permission.

Lots of places I used to hunt have been made into pretty expensive hunting properties. For years 8 of us had a hunting lease of a mile and a half of the South Platte for $800 per year.

When the owner died and the property sold, we were offered the lease for $25,000 per year. Unfortunately, none of us could afford it.

Magazine capacity limits don't affect me: I use a. 1911. I've no need for more than 8 in the magazine. I'm not a black gun guy so don't care about AR platforms. If anything, they and their users annoy me: magazine dumps aren't the kind of shooting I do.

I AM annoyed with the banning of private sales. It adds expense and inconvenience to the transaction.

I suspect we'll see some litigation if the legislation passes. I don't think some of the most extreme elements of the legislation will survive that litigation.

It's about ALL gun rights, not just the ones that affect us personally. We lose one, we risk losing them all. Chip away, you know?
And ALL STATES need to support each other, not just tell others to "move"
Eventually there would be nowhere left to go.
Support all gun rights.

 

[smoothshooter]

We are fighting a long-term battle the we will lose in the long run, but it is important to put off the inevitable as long as we can.
Gun ownership is destined to be increasingly difficult by design, and will be considered less and less important to our children and grandchildren over time.
10 years from now this country will be unrecognizeable, if not 5.

 

[luvsmiths]

We are fighting a long-term battle the we will lose in the long run, but it is important to put off the inevitable as long as we can.
Gun ownership is destined to be increasingly difficult by design, and will be considered less and less important to our children and grandchildren over time.
10 years from now this country will be unrecognizeable, if not 5.

Have you been watching the supreme courts actions lately on firearm rights?

And will YOU be first in line to knock on doors and try and collect tens of millions of guns from tens of millions of citizens?

There a a total of 3 million law enforcement ( of all types) in this country. Good luck with that if it was attempted. You may have 90% who give them up easily. Beware the ten percent that don't.

What a defeatist attitude you have.


In 2021, there were 660,288 full-time law enforcement officers employed in the United States. The number of full-time law enforcement officers reached a peak in 2008 with 708,569 officers, and hit a low in 2013 with 626,942 officers.

Good luck to them. Just a tad outnumbered.

We are, and will continue, to fight for our rights.