Committed to buying my first S&W revolver.

[sbeatty1983]

Found a nickel plated 586 no dash 4" on the interwebs. Got to send a money order tomorrow and wait for the gun to be shipped. Cant wait to see it in person. Im assuming the gun has not had the recall work done. Is it necessary? What does it acomplish? Gun will be carried some and possibly shot in IDPA with mostly 38special and some of my handloaded .357s. My dad is a big S&W collector, but i have always been an automatic guy myself. The bug bit me when i shot his 4" model 15 combat masterpiece. Had originaly wanted a 29 but the more i handled the 686s in the gun stores the more i decided I liked it better. Also if i dont have time to reload enough for a match or plinking session I can get WWB 38s much cheaper than 44 special. Sorry for the misspellings, bad grammar and rambling post but im excited about my Xmas/early Bday present.

 

[DDDWho]

Here is a link to help you decide if the recall work is necessary.

Firearm Recalls and Safety Warnings- FirearmsID.com

Congrats on a fine revolver

 

[kennyb]

gotcha yourself a good one!

 

[bigmoose]

The 586/686 are great guns....you made a smart choice for your first S&W. Soon after it arrives you will be planning your next purchase. Welcome to the addiction.

 

[sbeatty1983]

The 586/686 are great guns....you made a smart choice for your first S&W. Soon after it arrives you will be planning your next purchase. Welcome to the addiction.

Actualy am planning my next one now. Thinking of a model 18 or other K frame 22LR

 

[MacA]

...Im assuming the gun has not had the recall work done...

Any particular reason for you to assume this? I have purchased two used 686 no dash models and both had the modification done already. To know for sure if the modification has been done, there will be a "M" stamped into the yoke recess. Usually right under the serial number stamp.

Here is a picture I found doing a search on the forum recently...

Hope this helps!

 

[Sportsterguy]

Congrats! You're going to love it! Have the same revolver and it's accurate as all get out. By far my most accurate centerfire. I never touched the trigger but it is fantastic in both modes. I have well over 20k rounds through mine. It's never had the M mod completed and has never failed to function. Many of them rounds were .357's and am not sending it back as I don't use it for SD, but would not hesitate and grab it if I needed it with no worry of it tying itself up.

Think you made a good decision between the two revolvers as the 586 is the more versatile of the two and easier for me with my S-M sized hand to get a proper purchase on for fast DA shooting. Also MUCH cheaper and more fun to shoot than the .44 IMO. You might want to try a set of Herretts like mine. Feel way better and allow me to shoot it more accurately than the beautiful dark grained ones that came with it. Not the fanciest grip but it works wonders for my shooting.

Congrats and enjoy! Bet it's a tack driver like mine.

 

[BobR1]

The Product Recall Notice hinted at ammunition being the problem. My understanding is that Federal 357 Magnum ammo is where the problem normally surfaces.

If you read much about revolvers and trigger jobs, you will no doubt read about using Federal primers that are soft and easy to ignite from a revolver with a light hammer fall after a trigger job for reliable ignition.

That soft part is where the problem surfaces as they crater around the firing pin with 357 Magnum ammo on unmodified No dash and dash one guns.

As was said above this problem will probably never show up shooting any 38 ammo ever. It will probably not show up with mid range 357 Magnum ammo. I would skip Federal 357 ammo, or reloads using Federal primers however. For carry ammo I would probably get the old Midway catalog out, and check out all the available 357 ammo. Midway lists the velocity of the loads.
The Remington 125 grain Golden Sabers listed at 1220 fps are what I have in the wifes Home Defense 686.
Fiocchi has a 124 grain Hornady XTP loading at 1250 fps.
Corbon lists two 125 grain loads at 1300 fps.
CCI has a 158 HP rated at 1150 fps.
Buffalo Bore has a 125 HP rated at 1225 fps

I doubt any of these reduced power loads will crater the primers enough to have a problem. I would get a box to burn up at the range before betting ones life on them however.

If you do have any problems, follow the instructions, and box it up and send it in for the Modification.

Bob

 

[sbeatty1983]

The Product Recall Notice hinted at ammunition being the problem. My understanding is that Federal 357 Magnum ammo is where the problem normally surfaces.

If you read much about revolvers and trigger jobs, you will no doubt read about using Federal primers that are soft and easy to ignite from a revolver with a light hammer fall after a trigger job for reliable ignition.

That soft part is where the problem surfaces as they crater around the firing pin with 357 Magnum ammo on unmodified No dash and dash one guns.

As was said above this problem will probably never show up shooting any 38 ammo ever. It will probably not show up with mid range 357 Magnum ammo. I would skip Federal 357 ammo, or reloads using Federal primers however. For carry ammo I would probably get the old Midway catalog out, and check out all the available 357 ammo. Midway lists the velocity of the loads.
The Remington 125 grain Golden Sabers listed at 1220 fps are what I have in the wifes Home Defense 686.
Fiocchi has a 124 grain Hornady XTP loading at 1250 fps.
Corbon lists two 125 grain loads at 1300 fps.
CCI has a 158 HP rated at 1150 fps.
Buffalo Bore has a 125 HP rated at 1225 fps

I doubt any of these reduced power loads will crater the primers enough to have a problem. I would get a box to burn up at the range before betting ones life on them however.

If you do have any problems, follow the instructions, and box it up and send it in for the Modification.

Bob

ill probably carry my own handloads. Have the components laying around for these two loads. 125g Hornady xtp and have about half a pound of Win 296 and have two pounds of Universal clays. Loading manual is showing a 21-22 gr. load for the 296. If thats too snappy or inaccurate ill try the universal clays load calling for 7.6gr. Primers will be winchester small pistol magnum.

 

[M3Stuart]

Actualy am planning my next one now. Thinking of a model 18 or other K frame 22LR

The first one hasn't even arrived yet and he's on the prowl for A-Nother? Yep, he's addicted!

Welcome to the club. By the way, there's no recovery program yet available for what we've got!

 

[jproffitt]

Hope they never find a cure!

 

[BobR1]

Already working on a second revolver.

You may want to have the Parental Block thing done for GunBroker. You can stumble into enough revolvers by accident without help from them. Just Kidding

I am following one on GB myself right now. If the poster will answer my e-mail questions I will probably bid on it in the next couple days.
I have a 66 No Dash 2-1/2 found also.

Look at it this way, Guns have to be a beter investment than Banks or the Stock Market if you invest wisely.

Bob