Crittenden and Tibbals MFG

[Crittenden and Tibbals]

My Great Uncle and his partner created the first factory in the USA to manufacture drawn metal ammunition in about 1849.

He made the shells for S&W and all the early makers. I inherited the family collection and have been in the ammo world for over 70 years.

My family no longer cares about our history but they do like money. I am selling the collection.

One of the fellows at S&W gave him a pistol serial numbered 86385. I have never collected S&W pistols and have no idea just what it is.

I am selling it along with other family items and would like to know how to describe it.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thank you

Dr. J.R. Crittenden Schmitt

Crittenden Schmitt Archives

Washington DC

 

[wlw-19958]

Hi There,

I am selling it along with other family items and would like to know how to describe it.

Welcome to the Forum!

I am sorry your family doesn't appreciate its history. The best thing
you can do is to post some pics of the revolver.

Cheers!
Webb

 

[Crittenden and Tibbals]

OK,thanks. serial # 86385

 

[wlw-19958]

Hi There,

Your revolver appears to be a S&W Model No. 1 Second Issue.
These were made from 1860 to 1868. Serial number range was
a continuation of the First Issue from 11672 to 126361 with a total
of about 117000 made.

Cheers!
Webb

 

[Crittenden and Tibbals]

Hi There,

Your revolver appears to be a S&W Model No. 1 Second Issue.
These were made from 1860 to 1868. Serial number range was
a continuation of the First Issue from 11672 to 126361 with a total
of about 117000 made.

Cheers!
Webb

Many thanks !

 

[444 Magnum]

I would be interested in knowing more about the collection. What method are you going to use to sell it?

 

[Crittenden and Tibbals]

I would be interested in knowing more about the collection. What method are you going to use to sell it?

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[444 Magnum]

That's an interesting lot. If I may offer some free and unsolicited advise (we all know what that's worth ), in order to maximize desire to collectors and therefore value, I would try to include any items you could that would tie the listing to your grandfather and great uncle such as photos, company literature, letters, etc.
The ring, cuff links and buttons are great. Find a picture showing them on someone.
Request a historical letter on the pistol. Perhaps it will show the link between S&W and your grandfather.
In my opinion, the value of the items listed doesn't add up to the amount of the starting bid without being more definitively linked to your family.

I collect vintage ammunition myself. Here's one of my C&T boxes-full and complete.

I wish you the best in this endeavor. If you ever decide to part some of this out, I would be interested in a few items.

 

[DWalt]

Have you contacted https://cartridgecollectors.org/
That should be an absolute must. That is where the market is.

 

[Crittenden and Tibbals]

That's an interesting lot. If I may offer some free and unsolicited advise (we all know what that's worth ), in order to maximize desire to collectors and therefore value, I would try to include any items you could that would tie the listing to your grandfather and great uncle such as photos, company literature, letters, etc.
The ring, cuff links and buttons are great. Find a picture showing them on someone.
Request a historical letter on the pistol. Perhaps it will show the link between S&W and your grandfather.
In my opinion, the value of the items listed doesn't add up to the amount of the starting bid without being more definitively linked to your family.

I collect vintage ammunition myself. Here's one of my C&T boxes-full and complete.

I wish you the best in this endeavor. If you ever decide to part some of this out, I would be interested in a few items.

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That's an interesting lot. If I may offer some free and unsolicited advise (we all know what that's worth ), in order to maximize desire to collectors and therefore value, I would try to include any items you could that would tie the listing to your grandfather and great uncle such as photos, company literature, letters, etc.
The ring, cuff links and buttons are great. Find a picture showing them on someone.
Request a historical letter on the pistol. Perhaps it will show the link between S&W and your grandfather.
In my opinion, the value of the items listed doesn't add up to the amount of the starting bid without being more definitively linked to your family.

I collect vintage ammunition myself. Here's one of my C&T boxes-full and complete.

I wish you the best in this endeavor. If you ever decide to part some of this out, I would be interested in a few items.

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Thank you for the advice. Always appreciate advice.

I had boxes like these and traded them off over the years. I have been in this for over 70 years and am familiar with specialty marketing. It is the most common CTM box but still worth a lot.

Never collected antique guns so needed the info.

am too old to spend any more time on this lot. I still have many thousands of item to list for sale and not so much energy.

I am in no hurry to sell anything.

have no doubt that the lot will sell at my price. Only listed for hours and have already had serious offers but I am going to let it run until I get my minimum or better. Lots of other places to sell but GB has low fees and I have been on there for a decade or more.

If my buyer doesn't show up the jewelry will likely go into the grave with me.

Lots of folks like money but don't really need it.

I watched my Uncle's diamond 33rd degree Masonic ring close up in his and THAT was a bitch to suffer. It is still there ! Would have loved to have that but didn't have the heart to ask my aunt for it.