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The combination of the red ramped front sight + white outline rear sight make for about the worst sights I have ever used.

On my 686, I painted my rear black and replaced the front with a black ramp.

S&W needs an option for a black rear, and black ramp or patridge front.
 
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The 686 standard rear sight height is 0.146 and the front standard height is 0.230. Replace them both with what you need.
 
for me I have to disagree, If I have black sights (adjusatable) they all get changed to red ramp, white outline rear. For me its easier to see and shoot better with them. To each his own.
 
Originally posted by johngalt:
The combination of the red ramped front sight + white outline rear sight make for about the worst sights I have ever used.

On my 686, I painted my rear black and replaced the front with a black ramp.

S&W needs an option for a black rear, and black ramp or patridge front.

I agree, I've replaced all of mine with a Patridge front sight. It is a lot easier to "define" the top of the front sight for serious target work.
 
Originally posted by johngalt:
The combination of the red ramped front sight + white outline rear sight make for about the worst sights I have ever used.

On my 686, I painted my rear black and replaced the front with a black ramp.

S&W needs an option for a black rear, and black ramp or patridge front.

You must be color-blind, like me. For people with good color vision, they're terrific. But those people are resolution-impaired and can't see the black sights as well as someone with wolf-vision (i.e., color blind). Tell you what though, I've come to love the small dot XS night sights, as well as the HiViz green and the TruGlow TFO sights. And I particularly like Hamilton Bowen's "rough country" rear sights.
 
Originally posted by user:
You must be color-blind, like me. For people with good color vision, they're terrific. But those people are resolution-impaired and can't see the black sights as well as someone with wolf-vision (i.e., color blind). Tell you what though, I've come to love the small dot XS night sights, as well as the HiViz green and the TruGlow TFO sights. And I particularly like Hamilton Bowen's "rough country" rear sights.

Nope, not color blind. In sunlight, the light reflects off the red ramp, making it very difficult to see clearly. The white outline on the rear sight makes it difficult to make sure the front sight is centered correctly in the rear.

Horrible sights.
 
i can't see that red anymore and none older than me at the club can either. we either paint that thing black or adjust the rear sight and hold up the black under the red. old eyes mean patridge front.
 
I don't care for the red ramp front sight - white outline rear either. I just carry an aerosol can of Birchwood Csey Sight Black in my shooting box. I give everything a good coating at the range and eliminate all the distracting colors. Of course a carbide lamp gives a far superior blackening if you don't have plastic sights!
 
I've never really cared for the red ramp either and frequently black them with a Marks-A-lot. Comes off with a wipe of the finger. Black and sharp is best for me.
 
To me, the option has only ever held one attraction. A convenient already milled in slot that Meprolite already produced a Tritium insert for. Had many over the years and they either went nuclear, or got blackened. Count me as a thumbs down on them outdoors in full light. Indoors in no/low light? Tritium.
 
Sorry, but I have to agree that the RR/WO is the ugliest possible sight combination. I always change mine to the patridge sight and get a black rear sight. I can shoot fine with either sights, but I just hate the looks....to me sights are suppose to be black, or tritium.....and thats it...ha ha. I reckon when I get older and my eye sight goes I might change my mind about this though...
 
I had the red ramp sight on my 629 milled off and a black serrated patridge sight installed. It is great for precise bullseye target work on an indoor range, which is what I use it for. I have fortunately never had to do any combat shooting. My pistol training was in the military, and we learned to be proficient with black patridge sights, which I prefer to this day.
The combination of a red ramp on a serrated white stainless steel front sight is an abomination to a bullseye target shooter. The only other sight I will have on a handgun is a patridge rear and a gold dot front sight for daylight hunting.
 
I see a really cool gun at first sight(no pun intended); and, then I see that front sight....not for me.
 
I just gotta go with the black sights. Am not colour blind etc, Friend of mine has a 686 with red ramp etc, I cannot do good work with it, return to mine with the blacksights and adjustable front sight and everything jells. Obviously
we are all different. But hey horses for courses.
 
I've always liked the RR/WO sights. Just my opinion, of course, but I like RR on all my handguns if I can get them. If I can't, some nail polish will have to suffice. Works well for me.
 
In my younger days I loved the rr/wo set up. Today, with older eyes, I am a BIG fan of swapping out to gold bead fronts (or tritium dots) with an express rear. THat's one of the reasons I am a fan of the post 80 models because it is MUCH easier to do that with those models.

Just my .02.
 
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