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[ericrlarson]

I have a Vortex Venom with the 3 moa for and really like it. I don’t have experience with the other two. The 3 moa dot allows for some decent precision shots. Some of the competitive shooters go with the bigger dot like 6 moa. Sorry if I wasn’t much help.


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[swsig]

I have a Vortex Venom 3 moa on my FN FNX 45T (a great gun, BTW), and I like it very much. I got my Venom on sale at Cabela's 2 1/2 years ago, and I've shot 4,300 rounds with it. It took a couple of sessions to get it dialed in, but since then, it's been very reliable. I re-zero it once a year or so, but it usually needs little or no correction. My accuracy at 25 yards (the limit at my range) improved dramatically after I installed it. The bullet goes where the red dot is, and if it doesn't hit where I want it to, it's my fault, not the Venom's.

The Venom is well constructed, has a lifetime warranty, works as advertised, and costs less than the others. The dot's brightness is adjustable, and I've found that putting it on a dimmer setting allows me to see more of the bullseye while the dot remains quite visible. The Venom's only shortcoming is a minor one: The battery cap can work loose during a typical shooting session, so I have to remember to snug it down. But Vortex thoughtfully includes a double-ended screwdriver that fits both the battery cap slot and the windage and elevation screws. Bottom line is that I definitely recommend the Venom.

 

[fiasconva]

swsig, at what distance did you dial your red dot in, if you don't mind?

 

[Wise_A]

What exactly is "competitive shooting"?

You're asking, "I want shoes for sports" here, dude.

 

[ericrlarson]

What exactly is "competitive shooting"?



You're asking, "I want shoes for sports" here, dude.

USPSA/IPSC, IDPA, Bianchi Cup, Steel Challenge are some of the Competitive Shooting sports I was referring to. And I’m sure you can find suitable shoes lol


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[Wise_A]

I'd swing either the Vortex for a budget option, or the Trijicon RMR if you want to splash out. In either, I would be inclined towards the 4 MOA dot size. You're gonna have a tough time "losing" a 4 MOA dot, unless your grip slips a lot and you dive on the barrel.

If you decide to go the RMR route, I might suggest avoiding the dual-illuminated ones, which are commonly sold a bit cheaper. Folks seem to complain about them not being bright enough in intermediate light. I've no personal experience with that particular facet, YMMV, it's just something I hear come up a ton.

Oh, and dot beats dopey triangles any day. Human eye likes to center dots in stuff, triangles...not so much.

Depending on class/discipline, there are some other popular options (C-More, for instance) but the RMR and Vortex Venom are easier to fit on more guns, in more classes. All the open-type sights, in my not-so-humble opinion, are garbage for pure precision pistol, a la Bullseye.

 

[Ματθιας]

I have a trijcon reflex RX01 and a Meprolight Tru-Dot Red Dot Sight.

The trijicon is always "on". But if the tritium has to be replaced on the Trijicon, it's $250, at least that was when I last checked a couple three years ago and a trip back to the factory. Mine is old enough that it'll soon need to go back.

The Meprolight uses one AA battery.

I'm debating whether to send the Trijicon back or just get another RDS for a few $$$ more...

For what I use it for, plinking under 250 yards, both work fine.

 

[Ivan the Butcher]

I use an extinct brand on a few long guns, Big 4 or 6 MOA dots are fine at those close ranges but for distance a 1 or 2 MOA dot is the ticket. The nicest part about Red Dot devices is with both eyes open the dot is on target no matter where in the scope it is. In various action shooting your movements can be a little jumpy but when the dot is on target you simply pull the trigger. It really sped up my reaction time!

Ivan

PS for night and other low light shooting, dimming the dot is a must, more dim is often better. Raccoon eyes reflect red when hit with a normal flash light. Dial the dot to match their reflection, then when you have 3 "eyes" (dots in a row) pull the trigger! Whole families of raccoons have died on a tree limb that way!

 

[Benchrest1]

I've been running Vortex Venom's on my revolvers with good luck. Not one problem with any of them. I have both the 3moa and 6moa sights. If you are shooting 25 yards or closer and shooting fast I like the 6moa sight. For longer and more precision shooting I go with a 3moa sight. I'm an older shooter and my eyesight sucks now, but these red dot sights have been a game changer for me.

 

[swsig]

swsig, at what distance did you dial your red dot in, if you don't mind?

Twenty-five yards.

 

[H Richard]

I think any of them will do what you want, and withstand up to 45 slide battering. The 3 MOA dot is for precision work, such as bullseye, but is more difficult to pick up on a quick draw. For action type shooting a 6 MOA is much easier to pick up in a hurry. I can tell you the Burris does a fine job, and the one auto brightness setting works well, but the Fastfire III also has manual adjustments for selected preference indoors.

 

[kenjen]

big fan of the ULTRA-DOT line, have 3 of them 2 30mm one 1'' tubes for over 15yrs. on hand guns from 22-44mag never had any problems

 

[S&WIowegan]

All the dots you list in your first post are good. I own at least one of each. The Trigicon RMR is very expensive vs the others and has a small window. I have the Leupold DeltaPoint Pro with the large triangle dot which I like a lot. I'm having the DeltaPoint installed on my new SIG 320-M17. The Vortex Viper is very good and reasonable price.

You can't go wrong with any of them if money is no problem.

 

[fiasconva]

Thanks, swsig.

 

[Wise_A]

I can tell you the Burris does a fine job, and the one auto brightness setting works well, but the Fastfire III also has manual adjustments for selected preference indoors.

I think I will caveat that.

(1) Auto works great until you're shooting an illuminated target on a dark background. Then the auto setting dims for the dark background, and the dot washes out on the bright target.

(2) The FF3 has three manual settings, which I do not feel is enough.

 

[Wise_A]

Do Red Dots sights photography differently ... more rounded than they actually appear with naked eyes or glasses?

Typically, yes. Most people have some degree of astigmatism, which causes the "starburst" or "corona" effect we see on 'dots. And of course, cheap dots always have that, in addition to dots set to too high a brightness.

 

[kthom]

I have a Sig Romeo 5. I keep the red dot set at the dimmest setting that allows me to see the dot to minimize the starburst effect. Ambient lighting changes that setting of course, but if I can see the red dot at all, it works just fine for getting good hits.

 

[LPD256]

If you are talking handguns, I have a Deltapoint Pro on my Sig M17. I figure if it was selected by the Army, the Deltapoint is good enough for me. If you are talking rifles, I have an Aimpoint PRO on my .300 Blackout SBR. I have various Sig Romeos on the others. Happy with all of them

 

[S&WIowegan]

The DeltaPoint triangle is useful to me in speed steel shooting. For accuracy work at any significant distance a smaller dot is better.