Ever see or hear of a S&W MODEL 99 ?

[Donald Paul]

Smith & Wesson Model 99 polymer frame semi-auto pistol produced from 1999 thru 2006 in a joint effort by SMITH & WESSON of the USA {slide and related parts}, and by CARL WALTHER of GERMANY {frame and related parts}.
It is a very close copy of the Walther Model P99 made entirely in Germany from 1996 thru present and
available in only TWO calibers: 9mm and .40s&w.
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SerNo:SAA6XXX {seven characters}
This one is chambered for the 9mm parabellum, using a double-stack magazine holding 16 rounds.
It has a 4 inch bbl.
It was available from S&W in THREE calibers: 9mm, .40s&w, and .45acp.
This one is from an overrun batch or an order cancilation batch for the New Jersey State Police.
It has NO magazine safety and NO external manual safety.
Being striker fired with some unique de-cocking features, it has no hammer inside or outside.
It has a loaded chamber indicator, and a cocked striker indicator.
Having never fired it, I will refer you to the internet for additional information.
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I purchased this one from a local gun shop in July of 2004. I am the first private owner.
It has ever been fired outside of the factory.

 

[Sevens]

At a glance it reminds me of the Walther PPQm2 that I carry. I know very little about these. I am not sure why they never got more popular or why Walther left the design behind.

I would imagine that it’s a decent pistol, but as it’s a polymer gun, I don’t look at it like all the handguns that I love. It seems like a solid tool.

 

[BAM-BAM]

Walther P99 made by S&W................


Like the S&W made PPKs

 

[Farmer17]

I fired one in 40 Smith & Wesson years ago and after every shot the muzzle was pointed at the sky. I always wondered why people complained about the recoil or snappiness of the 40 and this gun was terrible, my Smith and Wesson M&P and CZ 75 in.40 are pretty soft shooters.

 

[Pine_Worker]

I had a SW99 in .40 in the past and currently have one in 9 mm. Great gun for polymer. Prefer the all metal Smiths tho.

 

[snw19_357]

I have one in 9mm and LOVE IT.

A striker fired pistol that you can decock and fire 'double action'?!
The single action trigger reset is fantastic. As good as or better than any 59 series, etc.

 

[HOUSTON RICK]

I remember wanting one, but by the time that I had the money, the SW 99 supply was drying up and the M&Ps were out. They have a dedicated cult following, at least locally, and usually sell quickly here - especially the nine millimeter models. S&W cutting their teeth on polymer guns.

 

[Old_Cop]

I would like a 9mm but the last one that I saw was close to $500. There was no chance that I was going out on that branch of the family tree.

 

[psjoe]

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[jsbethel]

I bought a LNIB SW99 9mm a few months ago at Bud's Gun Shop for $290 OTD - I was very pleased.

 

[Sevens]

That’s a nice buy.

 

[mckenney99]

Had a couple of the Walther versions come through the shop. There was a plastic piece of the fire control (part of the sear block?) that was prone to breakage when fired heavily. Was a known problem and I believe the part was eventually re-designed. To Walther's credit they did take care of the guns under warranty.

 

[Skeptic 9c]

There was a time when Walther / Umarex Sportwaffen now PW group were looking to generate money. The proceeded to do co-op deals with various companies around the world, including Poland, Turkey and a couple in the US of A. Some of those guns are still in production. There is some collector interest in the variations. The guns were not cheap at the time, and I was not rich, but I was tempted.
Geoff
Who spots the odd guns and posts information if I cannot budget the pruchase.

 

[panther]

I believe S&W was the importer of Walther guns for a few years after Interarms folded. There were a number of guns marked with both company names, including early PPS models and PPK/s pistols. The 99 was a model sold by both companies, I have read that the S&W 99 just used a Walther frame, the slide was S&W. In fact, the S&W 99 also came out in 45acp, Walther only made 9mm's and 40's.
A number of police and security forces used the S&W 99, not all of them had great service out of the pistols.
On a side note, I'm pretty sure a Walther 99 is James Bond's sidearm in one of the movies, I think one with Pierce Brosnon.
I've had 2 in 9mm and enjoyed both.

 

[Fastbolt]

One of my SW99 armorer manuals includes the briefly made SW99NJ model.

The SW99NJ was a production run made at the behest of the NJSP. They didn't want the standard SW99/P99 configuration that included a decocking button on the slide. They wanted a smooth/slick slide (no decocking button). Not having a decocking button in the slide meant that the pistol couldn't be decocked using a button, but could only be decocked by pulling the trigger (on an empty chamber).

The NJSP guns were discussed in one of the SW99/P99 armorer classes I attended. They didn't have one for us to examine, as they had been a very limited production model made for just the one contract, but the armorer manual for that class listed the model (since field-stripping was different, due to the lack of a decocking button).

Without going into all the myriad rumors of politics and press statements, we were told that elements within the NJSP had wanted a different pistol (manufacturer) than the contracted S&W pistols. Politics was mentioned. Then there were reports submitted of functioning problems on the NJSP range.

S&W couldn't replicate the reported functioning problems with their exhaustive testing of the guns, and they finally sent the reportedly problematic guns to HP White Labs for testing, along with thousands of rounds of duty ammunition. Lab testing of the guns couldn't replicate the reported functioning problems. We were told that the result of the independent lab testing was that the SW99NJ guns actually demonstrated an enviable degree of reliability. Regardless, S&W agreed to take the guns back that had been shipped, rather than argue about it. The comment was made that it was their business philosophy that today's lost agency customer was potentially tomorrow's future customer, in the next 5-10 years, so why antagonize the customer?

We were told the guns were sold on the wholesale market through S&W's normal vendors. The factory folks with whom I occasionally discussed the SW99's (as an armorer, issued user and owner) never reported any particular private owner complaints regarding the short-lived SW99NJ guns. The buyers of those guns needed to understand the difference in field-stripping compared to the standard SW99's, of course.

On the other hand, since it was a limited LE model run for that state agency, it might become an interesting collector's LE gun at some point, too.

I couldn't find an archived SW99NJ Manual on the S&W website (just for the SW99, SW99QA, SW990 & SW990L).

However, I saw this on another site: https://www.vintagegunleather.com/gun-manuals/pdf_S/smith_wesson_sw99nj.pdf

 

[thebolt]

I worked with a fellow investigator that has carried one of these and for a number of years. He continues to carry this and he shoots it extremely well. The pistol shoots very reliably without malfunction and it's had more rounds through it than most people will ever shoot. This pistol is not my personal preference but it is a great handgun.