Favorite milsurp rifles?

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Any of you guys thought about picking up or maybe already have some old military rifles?

I see lots of SKS's for sale but never really wanted one...an old M1 Garand, Springfield 1903, maybe an m2 carbine would be nice tho!

What are some other good options out there maybe not as spendy as these??

Oh and I have been in love with the dragunov since I was 12 so one day I need to pick up one of those for the wall if nothing else :)
 
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1917 and 1914 Enfields as well as some of the other Enfields are still pretty inexpensive. Moisin Nagants especially the Finnish ones are good rifles.
I actually owned a real Dragunov war trophy once.
 
I learned today that, after much wrangling to overcome the ban instituted by the State Dept, S. Korea will be able to ship back to the US (to FFL distributors) about 80k US-made M1 Garands. The distributors will then make these available to FFL gun shops for sale to the law-abiding public.

Unfortunately, wiser minds have not yet be able to overcome the State Dept's ban on US-made M1 Carbines being sent back to the US to FFL distributors from S. Korea. The carbines have detachable mags and the leaders of the State Dept are apparently worried that gang-bangers will use curios and relics in drive-bys.

I'd love to get a Garand and a M1 carbine.... They top my wish list of milsurp rifles.
 
Pasifikawv said:
I learned today that, after much wrangling to overcome the ban instituted by the State Dept, S. Korea will be able to ship back to the US (to FFL distributors) about 80k US-made M1 Garands. The distributors will then make these available to FFL gun shops for sale to the law-abiding public.

Unfortunately, wiser minds have not yet be able to overcome the State Dept's ban on US-made M1 Carbines being sent back to the US to FFL distributors from S. Korea. The carbines have detachable mags and the leaders of the State Dept are apparently worried that gang-bangers will use curios and relics in drive-bys.

I'd love to get a Garand and a M1 carbine.... They top my wish list of milsurp rifles.
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Politicians never cease to amaze me... That is very interesting though thanks! Would it be worth it to get my C&R license btw? I think it's only like 25 bucks
 
My personal favorite milsurps have always been the mausers. I have a $40 Turkish Mauser that is a great rifle. I purchased a BUNCH of ammo (@2500 rounds or so) when it was cheap. Its fun to shoot and cheap. I have had several Yugo 24/47s that were great, as well as a really nice Yugo M48.

I have also had good luck with the K31 Swiss rifles. They are an unusual design and ammo is NOT cheap, but they are phenomenally accurate.

Would love a Garand or carbine......

Pete
 
One of my favorites (although not cheap, necessarily plentiful, nor uses cheap ammo) is the MAS 49/56 (or the earlier MAS 49). I would avoid any of the re-chambered rifles in .308 and stick with the original 7.5 mm French version. They are neat odd rifles that are not too common around my area.
 
Time2Hunt said:
Politicians never cease to amaze me... That is very interesting though thanks! Would it be worth it to get my C&R license btw? I think it's only like 25 bucks
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In regards to the surplus US-made Garands and Carbines that S. Korea gov't wants to get rid of by selling to US FFL distributors, having a C&R will make no difference.

C&R will only help for purchase and possession of historic and antique arms already in the US. The sticking point with the US-made Carbines and Garands currently held by the S. Korean gov't is that the State Dept must approve their re-importation and it is blocking that move. The current leadership at the State Dept cites the potential for these antiques to be used in crime:rolleyes:.

Under pressure, the State Dept will allow some (not all) of the Garands to come home, but none of the Carbines. Some folks on Capitol Hill (Sen. Tester of Montana - plus others I can't think of at the moment) have introduced legislation that will allow the importation of US-made milsurp rifles classified as C&R to bypass the need for State Dept approval for these fine pieces of history to come back home.

Most of the US-made Garands and Carbines in S. Korea are in mint condition - never issued and still in the crates and packing grease. They have been sitting in storage with the S. Korean gov't ever since the Korean conflict ended. I want one... My grandfather carried a Garand in WWII and my dad trained extensively with the Carbine during the Korean Conflict era.
 
Yeah my dad carried the M1 I'm in Korea and later the 03. Would love to get him one as a present if I could find one in good shape.

About those m1's sitting in storage...not only for a personal collection but if one had a chance to pickup up a large quantity of those and hold/sell over time, that would like a nice little return on investment I bet! :)
 
Most accurate milsurp has to be the Swiss K31. I know the 1903 Mafia will put a note out on me for saying so, but it's the truth. The Chinese SKS rifles can be very accurate, certainly far better than the imported AK clones. The US built AKs are a different animal.

The P14 and Model 1917 rifles were very underrated and available at good prices until quite recently. Now the market has woken up about them.

Mosin Nagants offer the best variety from $80 Ukrainian refurb mixmasters through to incredibly rare variants that fetch prices in the high hundreds. Also, the Mosin can be a very accurate rifle either straight out of the box (Finnish rebuilds) or by using some simple bedding tweaks.
 
Time2Hunt said:
....About those m1's sitting in storage...not only for a personal collection but if one had a chance to pickup up a large quantity of those and hold/sell over time, that would like a nice little return on investment I bet! :)
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:p HEY NOW! That's exactly what I DON'T want the distributors to do. I hope they come home in bulk and the distributors flood them to FFL gun shops so that the higher supply drives the prices down a bit.

I want one of each and the lower the price the better. :)

It is a good idea you have tho. If you could get your hands on several mint M1's and sit on them, the price will only go up in time. Not only are they great pieces of history, they would make an excellent investment.

For now, I just hope the State Dept gets outta the way and lets these C&R milsurp rifles come back home. Many of our fathers and grandfathers relied on the M1's as their battle rifle and it would be meaningful to own a piece of personal and national history.
 
I don't recall if it was the latest G&A or my NRA magazine, but there was a nice article about milsurp bolt guns and their use afield by sportsmen in the US. It was a good read....
 
Several years ago my son was in the early stages of his career path, which was looking at the gaming industry. His primary interest at the time was some of the war video games. Being the supportive Dad like l am, l figured there's nothing like holding the real thing if you want to model it on a computer. So... I picked up a Garand and an M1 carbine (a Winchester, no less!). Then he discovered the smell of perfume and gasoline! So much for the gun stuff. Now he has two degrees and is working as a 3-D lab instructor; his primary focus outside of his job is cars, gears and games. Oh well... at least l tried. ...and l gotta keep both rifles. :D
 
How about the FN 49? Even with my old eyes 1 1/2" groups (100 yds)with the peep sights.

todd
 
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I like all my mil-surps..and own a bunch.

My favorites would be a 1881 trapdoor rifle..and a 1942 M1 carbine.

I really love shooting those two.

Handgun mil-surps...I like my Lugers.
 
Mausers have began to climb in price, but I do like them.

Right now, you can get a fair Mosin Nagant for a C note, and ammo is reasonable as well. Something cheap and fun to shoot, and I believe they will appreciate in value once the supply dries up.
 
I love my Garand but if I had to pick a favorite it would be the Greek M1903/14.
 
Pasifikawv I think you are wrong If the Garands get imported they will still be C&R 's just like year's ago when Blue Sky and others imported them. The differance will be if they go to a importer they will be import stamped not unstamped like the ones from the CMP. A C&R license is a great deal at $30.00 for 3 years you don't ever have to buy a gun to save as Brownels,Numerich ,Midway and many others will give a discount if you send them a copy.Also it is great to get guns delivered to your door including some nice older S&W's.
P/S I don't think the Korean guns will be in unissued condition as most of the ones that did go to Korea were reworked WWII guns till late in the war. Also the korean's were not known for taking real good care of there weapons just ask anyone that had one of the Blue Sky or other early imports.
 
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