Fiocchi - Good or Bad?

They also make quality shotgun shells, if you do that kind of shooting.
They will usually match the price of win & Fed 12 Ga. prices and I like them a LOT more
over the cheaper Estates that I used back in the day, for practice.

I have yet to try any of their USA ammo, with my stock piles of metalic ammo.
The only thing I don’t like about Fiocchi shotgun shells is the use of steel case heads (which rust easily and caused customer complaints) instead of the traditional brass.
When I started working there years ago one of my first jobs when I worked in production was running the monster punch press that stamped them out from big rolls of steel that weighed several tons each.
 
The only thing I don’t like about Fiocchi shotgun shells is the use of steel case heads (which rust easily and caused customer complaints) instead of the traditional brass.
When I started working there years ago one of my first jobs when I worked in production was running the monster punch press that stamped them out from big rolls of steel that weighed several tons each.

Were they bare metal or too thinly coated to provide a protective finish? From my experience most US makers have been using steel case heads for much of their production for a while but they are well plated. I have only seen rust issues with US shells when they were exposed to the elements for a rather long time or when the boxes got really damp due to poor storage.
 
I found your experience interesting. I have always had excellent results with Fiocchi ammunition and prefer it to S&B. Fiocchi handgun ammo has given me good accuracy and reliability. S&B was okay but never seemed as accurate in my guns.

Another factor was reloadability as I reload almost everything I shoot and Fiocchi brass seems far better than S&B. Primer pockets on S&B seem to be rather undersized, cases seem very thin and prone to splits after no more than a couple loadings. S&B .303 British ammo seems particularly bad in this respect. Cases stretch badly on first firing and I will not even try to reload them.

Reloading may not be a factor in Italy but it's an issue with me here. As far as European made ammo I actually prefer PPU as their brass has given excellent results for me with Fiocchi as a second choice. Fiocchi does produce some of their ammo in the US currently but I don't know if the brass they use here is US made or imported. I have used a good amount of Italian made Fiocchi ammo over the years and have always been happy with it.
As an Italian, I am flattered to read how much you appreciate our products, whether they are manufactured in Italy or made in the USA.
As for reloading, I had a gun shop until 2000. 30% of the turnover was for reloading and it was precisely in that period that the spread of Practical Shooting began, where reloading is essential for the quantity of ammo fired at the range for training. I believe it is now attested at 50% of the turnover. Until I stoped to shoot assiduously, around 2000, I used two Dillon 650s and reloaded for three days a week for two or three hours by day in the evening and my friends did the same. I think I shot more or less 3000 to 5000 shots a week.
In Italy there are about 1,500,000 gun licenses plus all those who have permission to shoot at the shooting range without a gun license, I would say roughly the same figure, which out of 50,000,000 inhabitants makes a decent percentage for a country notoriously not armed.
Look at the medals and trophies won in the various world championships where guns are used and you will get an idea of ​​how many people shoot in Italy.
I have some dear friends who every time they go to the Olympic Games or to Bisley or to the IPSC European or World Championships come back with several medals around their necks, everywhere in the world and in different disciplines.
 
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Here's a box of Fiocchi USA made in Missouri and Fiocchi made in Italy. Packaging is labelled if you look close.
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The .38 Spl made in Italy seems to have a relatively hard primer.
 

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From the Fiocchi website:
Fiocchi was founded in 1876 in Lecco, Italy, and has been producing high-quality ammunition ever since. The tradition continues at Fiocchi's Ozark, Missouri and Little Rock, Arkansas facilities - right in the heart of America. Hundreds of hardworking Americans producing some of the highest quality shotshell, centerfire, and rimfire ammunition available. American ingenuity fused with our Italian lineage keeps us focused on quality craftsmanship, innovation, and unequaled customer service.
 
Last year, I shot a box of Fiocchi 357 158gr, bought about 6 years ago, through my 4" Mod 28 with target stocks. Very accurate, but hand-bruising hot, even in that heavy N frame.
I would not shoot it in any gun lighter than that, unless your hands are much bigger and stronger than mine.
 
From my personal experience, 9mm and .38/.357 good and often the cheapest, .22 lr bad, CCI much better.
 
My local sporting goods store lacks options for .357 and 38 Special. They have Hornady and Fiocchi. The Fiocchi is less expensive and would be used for training, but I have no experience with this brand of ammunition.

If Fiocchi is legit, looking for recommendations on what grain to choose. It would be used in a 327 2" snub nose and a R8 5" barrel.

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I have shot Fiocchi cartridges with almost all my S&W revolvers in different calibers.
They are reasonably priced even in Finland.
I especially like the 115 gr 9mm cartridge with the Glock G26.
All have worked and the accuracy is at least sufficient.
 
I recently scavenged some once fired hulls left behind by the trap shooters. These were clear plastic with the six point crimp. As it turns out they are very thin and the folds cracked when fired after the first reloading, with some of the charges barely making it out the barrel. I actually watched one of my punkin balls sail through the air, hit the conveyor belt backstop, bounce off and roll back toward me. I guess they work fine in factory load configuration but are not fit for reloading.
 
Fiocchi is good to go. Shoot a lot of it. We use the 124 grain fmj 9mm and 55 grain fmj .223 for practice ammo at our agency. Accurate enough and have had no problems arise.
 
My experience with Fiocci comes from buying a Glock 19. First time out with the new gun I had Winchester White box ammo. The gun pretty much wouldn't run on that stuff. I thought it was the gun so went back to the gun store. When I told him what was going on he asked about ammo used. He checked out my gun(he's a Glock armorer) shook his head and handed me a box of Fiocci 115 FMJ and said try that. Problem solved. The Winchester ammo was a little underpowered....the Fiocci worked great
 
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