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I was looking for a good LED 200 lumens every day carry flashlight. Boy I tell you it was tough to find a good one at a good price. After a lot of research I was ready to get the Finex LD22 but attended a gun show and bought an increadible light that is small in size but big on light. The Powertec E5 with 700 lumens, wow. Does anyone else use a light this bright?

PowerTac USA - E5 LED Flashlight with CREE XM-L LED 700 Lumens-Uses 2 x CR123A or 1 x 18650
 
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Jesus man!!!! 700 lumins!?!?!?! My carry light is small and powerfull and cheeeap!! Energizer tactical 2aa single led 100 lumin.. i get a solid 140 yards of light ahead of me.. an at $20 i couldnt be happier with it, my 15-22 is getting a utg 150 lumin with pressurr switch for night time critter hunting
 
Looks like a nice light, but I have never heard of the name brand. 140 mins on a single 18650 is pretty good. Can't go wrong with a cree xml. I would look into the Olight m21 or Thrunite tn-11 or tn-12 or Klarus xt-11. All of which have pressure pads/switches and really good reps.
 
Dang...that sounds blinding.

Usaually when I see an affordable light like that with that many lumen, I'm reminded of some crappy JC Whitney audio amplifiers. It's nice to hear it's not always too good to be true. I have a Fenix TA30(3 cr123's or 2 AA's in a pinch) in my hunting pack, but I think I'll pick one of these up to possibly replace it.

How do you switch between modes?

Thanks for sharing.
 
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I have never heard of that PowerTech company.

But it all depends on what you are wanting from your light and how you will use it. For something that is a toy, or maybe for spot lighting then it might not be bad.

But a working light will need more spill so you can keep your SA up.

That being said, for a .22 semi auto it might not be a bad idea :p

SureFire are bringing out their x300 Ultra at 500 lumens and some new pocket lights as well later this year.

KBK
 
4cfed, if this is the one you are considering go for it…….

Here is the one I use. $57.00 at CTD and you’re done.

2-UTGLT-EL338Q - Leapers UTG SWATFORCE Series Combat 37mm IRB LED Flashlight with Interchangeable QD Mount

Comes with rail mount and pressure switch and standard flashlight body.

The chief complaint is it is big and heavy. But I only have it on the gun when I’m using it so who cares. It is one of the few “discount” purchases I have made that I am really happy with. Lights up the eyes of every critter in the desert.
 
On duty and off duty i trust Stream Light Stinger LED HP. At 200 lumes high, 100 med and 50 on low. Also has strobe feature and its blinding to say the least. Never have had an issue with it.
 
4cfed, if this is the one you are considering go for it…….

Here is the one I use. $57.00 at CTD and you’re done.

2-UTGLT-EL338Q - Leapers UTG SWATFORCE Series Combat 37mm IRB LED Flashlight with Interchangeable QD Mount

Comes with rail mount and pressure switch and standard flashlight body.

The chief complaint is it is big and heavy. But I only have it on the gun when I’m using it so who cares. It is one of the few “discount” purchases I have made that I am really happy with. Lights up the eyes of every critter in the desert.


Looks like thats it.. but the one locally says 150 lumins.. could be a online typo?.. its $54.99 at the store i buy all my ammo at, and it.just seemed very appealing for the price and light output, i have a primos varmint hunting kit right now, the light clips onto the scope amd has a rocker switch that velcros to the gun and a external battery pack, iv used it maybe a hand full of times an it's not all that appealing.. but it does have a red lens cover so the critters never see it coming! !!

If it was a led bulb an put out more light i would probably use it more than i do, i used it for coyote hunting at night an well... no fur to show :(
 
The Powertec E5 has a lifetime warranty and is made in Orlando Florida. Shock proof, water proof, heat, cold, vibration proof, and just plain blinding even reflecting off a surface. On its low power setting I can see what the other flashlights look like and am glad I didn't buy one of those because I would have been pissed seeing this one. There are five settings, moonlight - low - medium - high - strobe. You change settings by rotating the lens 1/8 turn and then turning it back. Each time you do this it goes to the next setting. It stays in the setting you used last so when you push the end cap button it's on. No clicking the button multipul times to get where you want to be. You can also push the button half way for momentary light. There is also a rail mount and pressure switch if you want to mount it.
 
Flashlights – My OPINION:

Flashlights are a tool that is in the rapidly changing technology area. They are getting brighter, lighter, and better every day. But for me, a weapon light has a specific function. I want it on and off when it should be on or off and I want to do this without fidgeting with complicated switches or controls. A grip mounted pressure switch works for me.

Technology tends to lead to gadjetiering, as manufacturers race to add features to products in an attempt to claim superior function and a higher price point. The latest features of these products are marketed as a “must have” and magazine writers support this to protect their advertisers. With flashlights, the new “blinding strobe” effect is the epitome of this process. I am not buying in.

Are you kidding me? Say there is a bad guy coming into my house in the dark of night. I grab my home defense weapon, which is not my 15-22, and does not have a cheap flashlight on it, it is a name brand weapon light. I go down the hallway and find the bad guy in my living room. In fractions of a second I am going to be forced to make life and death decisions. Decisions that will affect his life and mine. Is he armed? Is he really a bad guy or a drunken neighbor or friend that stumbled in. Is he wearing body armor I can see? Can I identify him? Where are my kids? Did they get up too, if they heard the same noise as me?

In that situation I want as much information as I can gather and gaining that information will require light. The last thing in the world I am going to do is fumble for some ridiculous feature on my flashlight called strobe and turn that situation into a scene from the Halloween haunted house. The potential target in front of me could become so jittery and shaky to my eyes that I may not know if he is advancing or retreating. I will rely on my training, skills, and firepower in that situation. NOT a stroboscopic gimmick on a flashlight. This forum is filled with posts from guys stressing about making a purchase(of any type) because of technology. “What if it is better and cheaper next week?” I ask myself, is it really a benefit to my needs? Just my .02 cents worth.

The OP here is on to something. As the lights do improve in brightness, I would like to have something like 700 blinding lumens on my SD weapon. I will wait for them to be commonplace and affordable.

For clarification – in a post above I supported a UTG flashlight for a 15-22 for nighttime hunting. That is not self defense. I treat my SD weapons differently than my 15-22, they generally get the best accessories money can buy. The $57.00 UTG flashlight is a bargain and a good light for a .22 caliber fun gun, especially if your just lighting up coyotes!

I did not mean this to be a rant....but hey....sometimes I do that;)
 
One more comment about my rant. BP231986, all you said in your post is that your light has the strobe feature. You did not say you use it every time your confronted with an armed bad guy to protect you. I’m betting you don’t. I have never met a LEO that does. I am simply stating my opinion about how useless I think that feature is. No reflection on you is intended.
 
As a former close-qrts, low-light entry instructor...prob the best training that I stole for my military students was given from the "sure-fire" tactical training folks. They do teach using your light in a strobe type manor to confuse the "bad guy" as to how many are on your entry team and their location in the room...and to blind them. But when in gross motor skill time (when a bad guy is in my house) I wont have time or ability to figure out a complicated multi-function light...On or Off...Shoot or Don't Shoot...Hulk Smash or Hulk No Smash :)
 
Flashlights – My OPINION:

Flashlights are a tool that is in the rapidly changing technology area. They are getting brighter, lighter, and better every day. But for me, a weapon light has a specific function. I want it on and off when it should be on or off and I want to do this without fidgeting with complicated switches or controls. A grip mounted pressure switch works for me.

Technology tends to lead to gadjetiering, as manufacturers race to add features to products in an attempt to claim superior function and a higher price point. The latest features of these products are marketed as a “must have” and magazine writers support this to protect their advertisers. With flashlights, the new “blinding strobe” effect is the epitome of this process. I am not buying in.

Are you kidding me? Say there is a bad guy coming into my house in the dark of night. I grab my home defense weapon, which is not my 15-22, and does not have a cheap flashlight on it, it is a name brand weapon light. I go down the hallway and find the bad guy in my living room. In fractions of a second I am going to be forced to make life and death decisions. Decisions that will affect his life and mine. Is he armed? Is he really a bad guy or a drunken neighbor or friend that stumbled in. Is he wearing body armor I can see? Can I identify him? Where are my kids? Did they get up too, if they heard the same noise as me?

In that situation I want as much information as I can gather and gaining that information will require light. The last thing in the world I am going to do is fumble for some ridiculous feature on my flashlight called strobe and turn that situation into a scene from the Halloween haunted house. The potential target in front of me could become so jittery and shaky to my eyes that I may not know if he is advancing or retreating. I will rely on my training, skills, and firepower in that situation. NOT a stroboscopic gimmick on a flashlight. This forum is filled with posts from guys stressing about making a purchase(of any type) because of technology. “What if it is better and cheaper next week?” I ask myself, is it really a benefit to my needs? Just my .02 cents worth.

The OP here is on to something. As the lights do improve in brightness, I would like to have something like 700 blinding lumens on my SD weapon. I will wait for them to be commonplace and affordable.

For clarification – in a post above I supported a UTG flashlight for a 15-22 for nighttime hunting. That is not self defense. I treat my SD weapons differently than my 15-22, they generally get the best accessories money can buy. The $57.00 UTG flashlight is a bargain and a good light for a .22 caliber fun gun, especially if your just lighting up coyotes!

I did not mean this to be a rant....but hey....sometimes I do that;)



Thats all i planned for was lighting up coyotes and racoons
 
I totally agree that a flashlight needs to be simple to operate, especially in a life and death situation. As stated at the start of this post the 700 lumens flashlight i bought is going to be an every day carry item. I am not into strobes either but don't mind that it is there. Remember its better to have it and not meet it than to need it and not have it. I always leave it set on high just in case but have found that for many uses it's too bright and end up turning it down. For a wepon light though I think the 700 lumens would be awesome, being able to see at night to 250 yards, Yea i might just get another one just for my rifle.
 
As a former close-qrts, low-light entry instructor...prob the best training that I stole for my military students was given from the "sure-fire" tactical training folks. They do teach using your light in a strobe type manor to confuse the "bad guy" as to how many are on your entry team and their location in the room...and to blind them. But when in gross motor skill time (when a bad guy is in my house) I wont have time or ability to figure out a complicated multi-function light...On or Off...Shoot or Don't Shoot...Hulk Smash or Hulk No Smash :)

Someone in my house that is not supose to be there, Hulk SMASH! ;)
 
If you live in the USA and you want 730 lumens on target, from a light that can withstand recoil of center fire rounds, look towards the TNVC turbo head for the Surefire series.

It is bigger than the standard LED reflectors, and it is a little pricey, but it is 730 lumens (600 useable), it is compatible with the P, G, E and M600 series of bodies as well as various other models. It does require a separate adapter for each body type, but it does what is advertised.

730 lumens with decent throw, nice spill and any of the SF tail cap options. From the 3volt series, like the Mini Scout or the E1-B you'll get 200 useable lumens for 40 min!

730 lumen Turbohead for SF lights

It is a decent piece of kit, but it is weighty. Heavier than a standard drop in. It is durable though and will survive almost anything.

I agree with the OP though. I'd love to see some of the modern development moving into less features and less lumens, but a smaller package.

They are on the right track with the X300 Ultra that will be out later this year, a 500 lumens weapon light in the same package as the standard X300! I just wish they'd make the package smaller but still throwing the current 220 lumens. That would kick butt IMHO. Keep the lumens but reduce the weight/size of the unit.

For a decent-ish weapon light on a budget, I like the Streamlight PT-L series. I carry a PT-2L as an EDC, which is their two CR123 light, the light has high - strobe - low on the tail clicky, which is push for momentary. Many Chinese lights have click on, then click off for momentary. Not good.

I use a PT-1L on my Airsoft M4 and will be putting one on my 15/22 when I get it. It is not a super bright light, but it does have decent throw, decent spill and it is light-weight. I put it in a Viking Tactics polymer mount. It accepts the 1" SF lights like the G2 and the 0.8" lights like the E2. It is also one of the lightest mounts around, and it puts the light in the place I like it to be.

(My HD weapon uses a modified G2 in the same mount).

I dislike the lights with the low option and mostly with the strobe. I've never used the strobe for anything, even though I have been trained in its use, and many lights with low settings cycle the low first. I want the high setting first and by the time you've cycled through that the low seems kinda dull :p

KBK
 
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