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FN-FAL
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I suppose it never hurts to ask, but no. I would not like to take from you the experience for earning the firearm you want.
Obviously I'm joking, but the prices are so out of sight. I love the FAL's, but my M1A will get the job done. I wish I could've got one before all the prices went off the chain.
Fishinfool
Member
You can still find Century Arms, and a few other copies at decent prices. Some of the QC on them was not that great though. DSA seems about the best. I used to own a "real" one back in the 1980's. Good enough rifle, but I just never warmed up to it. Prefered my HK-91 and M1a for full size battle rifles. Eventually sold the FAL, and added an Armalite AR10-T to the mix. Talking about prices, when I bought my HK-91 new in the early 1980's, I paid $499.00 for it. If I remember right, the FAL was a little less....
Larry
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The FAL has always just sort of had my interest. I don't think I'm interested in a Century, or another parts gun since they don't have the quality of the original. The HK is obviously out of the question due to price, but then again so is the FN. Oh well, dreams are good, but my M1A loaded shoots like a dream!
Arik
Member
I'll take one too!!!!
da gimp
Member
my brother in law still has at least one of the old Browning Arms FAL's...if I remember right it is a G series? It works, period...
But there are many brands that are very magazine picky.... and not just on the inch pattern & metric pattern issues.........Unlike Colt AR 15 & even all the better AR platform rifles which work 100% of the time with any mil-spec-mag.... and genuine HK-91's work with any G3/HK91 mag made in any factory that HK set up... & M14's & M1-A's work 100% of the time with USGI spec-mags.... the off brand FAL's , parts guns/kit guns can be very picky on which mags they'll feed out of........& this has nothing to do with setting the gas system to the right notch either... if your parts gun/kit gun works correctly with every mag or nearly every mag of the correct type... keep it...
69Cam... if you can find & buy an original Belg FN...whether it is one of the few of the Browning semi auto version made & imported here to the USA...or is either an even more rare Belg class 3 FN-FAL or one of the even fewer made for US government trials.... you are a lucky man... Hope you can afford it... after you find one.........
But there are many brands that are very magazine picky.... and not just on the inch pattern & metric pattern issues.........Unlike Colt AR 15 & even all the better AR platform rifles which work 100% of the time with any mil-spec-mag.... and genuine HK-91's work with any G3/HK91 mag made in any factory that HK set up... & M14's & M1-A's work 100% of the time with USGI spec-mags.... the off brand FAL's , parts guns/kit guns can be very picky on which mags they'll feed out of........& this has nothing to do with setting the gas system to the right notch either... if your parts gun/kit gun works correctly with every mag or nearly every mag of the correct type... keep it...
69Cam... if you can find & buy an original Belg FN...whether it is one of the few of the Browning semi auto version made & imported here to the USA...or is either an even more rare Belg class 3 FN-FAL or one of the even fewer made for US government trials.... you are a lucky man... Hope you can afford it... after you find one.........
da gimp
Member
Cam...Let me add this to your quest for a good mil spec rifle in 7.62Nato... the Armalite AR 10 has out performed all of the same platform rifles by other more costly brands... both in out of the box accuracy & dependability...
The late Major Dick Culver USMC, and several NCO's tested them against another brand of AR10 style rifle that the USMC already had purchased and it out performed them hands down... & the Armalite AR 10's were out of the box rifles... fresh off the assembly line...while the other rifles were supposedly tuned more after they had left the assembly line at the other factory. or so the USMC was told...The Armalite AR 10 was about 1/3 the cost....
Lessons Armalite learned on building match quality AR 15 service rifles translated directly back to the AR10 7.62/.308 Win.series... all of the tricks worked just as well on them as it had on their AR-15 5.56mm/.223 Rem versions... Plus the Armalite is 100% US made....
The late Major Dick Culver USMC, and several NCO's tested them against another brand of AR10 style rifle that the USMC already had purchased and it out performed them hands down... & the Armalite AR 10's were out of the box rifles... fresh off the assembly line...while the other rifles were supposedly tuned more after they had left the assembly line at the other factory. or so the USMC was told...The Armalite AR 10 was about 1/3 the cost....
Lessons Armalite learned on building match quality AR 15 service rifles translated directly back to the AR10 7.62/.308 Win.series... all of the tricks worked just as well on them as it had on their AR-15 5.56mm/.223 Rem versions... Plus the Armalite is 100% US made....
I know there are better rifles out there, I've just always liked the way they look. Plus, they are pretty proven. I don't need another gun, I like to collect. I do shoot, but some are just set aside. Just setting them aside for my kids when they get older
Thanks....
I looked up the history on this rifle and found it interesting. I also looked at prices and I was 'astounded'.
PS: FN did NOT play around with QC.
I looked up the history on this rifle and found it interesting. I also looked at prices and I was 'astounded'.
PS: FN did NOT play around with QC.
IMO, the 80's MBR's (HK 91, FN-FAL & M1A) all had good features about them that varied from each model. The M1A's sights were the best but the FAL's adjustable gas system was superior when shooting ammo that varied in how it was loaded. The HK's delayed roller bolt locking system had it's points, along with fluted chamber. Although some reloaders didn't care for it.
I agree with da gimp and IMO that a properly setup AR10 will outperform all 3 plus is as cheap and easy to scope as buying a scope and set of rings. The others, not so much. although the newer versions of the HK (PTR & Century) has the welded pic rail which makes scoping a breeze.
Just my 2 cents.
I agree with da gimp and IMO that a properly setup AR10 will outperform all 3 plus is as cheap and easy to scope as buying a scope and set of rings. The others, not so much. although the newer versions of the HK (PTR & Century) has the welded pic rail which makes scoping a breeze.
Just my 2 cents.
I can relate.
I need them like another hole in the head but I'm currently looking for a deal on some FAL receivers (prefer Imbel) to build on some StG 58 kits that have been laying around for a few years.
Back when I could see and use irons I shot M14s and M1As now and then. Annually a storied Canadian outfit, the PPCLI (Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry) would come down and compete with their FALs, all the way back to 500 yards. They didn't take back seat to anyone.
We also shot some of their courses of fire, which were a blast. I still have a few of their Figure 11 and 12 "Mad Russian" targets around for old times' sake.
I suspect that all things considered, the FAL was actually a better infantry weapon than the M14. The list of countries that adopted it is VERY long.
We also shot some of their courses of fire, which were a blast. I still have a few of their Figure 11 and 12 "Mad Russian" targets around for old times' sake.
I suspect that all things considered, the FAL was actually a better infantry weapon than the M14. The list of countries that adopted it is VERY long.
cowart
US Veteran
Back in those days, I used to read every issue of the Shotgun News. The first time I ever saw an ad for the HK-91, probably in the 70s, I immediately ordered one. The price was a few $ less than $300!
I got the model with the polygonal rifling, which was a problem. It was *very* sensitive to pressure, and I had to reduce my normal powder charges. Full power loads would put a huge dent in the brass, and throw it a really long way away.
da gimp
Member
We'd bought one of the 250 HK 91 AZ's that Lew Horton brought in back in late 1983 early 1984... the only difference between them and the HK 91 A2's was that they had a 2kg trigger as opposed to the 12lb or so trigger found on a lot of HK's rifles back then...it still had a huge take up & a little grit & huge over travel but was way less in poundage...
At the time it was nearly impossible to get one of their set triggers groups. We paid $525.00 & got a $50.00 factory rebate....included were 2 extra 20 round mags, the adj 2 piece combat sling & the snap on case buffer that reduced but did not eliminate the dents in fired cases...
At the time it was nearly impossible to get one of their set triggers groups. We paid $525.00 & got a $50.00 factory rebate....included were 2 extra 20 round mags, the adj 2 piece combat sling & the snap on case buffer that reduced but did not eliminate the dents in fired cases...
Art Doc
SWCA Member, Absent Comrade
"I know there are better rifles out there"
Blasphemy! I was going to send you the one I bought from a GI returned from Germany he bought at the PX so it lacks import marks but after your comment...well, I dunno...
Blasphemy! I was going to send you the one I bought from a GI returned from Germany he bought at the PX so it lacks import marks but after your comment...well, I dunno...
FAL's
Everyone should have one of these, just in case.... This one's built on an IMBEL receiver, with Steyr parts. They're heavy, with all the finesse of a bulldozer, but they will put some lead way down range with good accuracy. BTW, I also have another of these built on a widow's peak Century receiver that is a sweetheart of runner - some do, some don't. They have, like everything else, there own quirks. Most of us are used to our AR-15s - and the lightweight appeal of an AR-10 over a FAL has its points. I do know though, that one of these FAL's properly set up will run all day - and in a fixed position (location), I'd rather be shooting 7.62x51 out of one of these than the lighter, AR platform.
Everyone should have one of these, just in case.... This one's built on an IMBEL receiver, with Steyr parts. They're heavy, with all the finesse of a bulldozer, but they will put some lead way down range with good accuracy. BTW, I also have another of these built on a widow's peak Century receiver that is a sweetheart of runner - some do, some don't. They have, like everything else, there own quirks. Most of us are used to our AR-15s - and the lightweight appeal of an AR-10 over a FAL has its points. I do know though, that one of these FAL's properly set up will run all day - and in a fixed position (location), I'd rather be shooting 7.62x51 out of one of these than the lighter, AR platform.
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CelticSire
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Jerry Miculek and the FN FAL
Jerry Miculek and the FN FAL
