A friend sent me this, a comparison of Formula 1 pit stops 63 years apart.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRy_73ivcms
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRy_73ivcms
Formula 1 Pit Stops 1950 and 2013
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That one guy with the hammer loosening the spinner lug nut needs a bigger hammer!
steveno
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I am always surprised that nobody gets hurt in the F-1 pit stops. that takes some guts to stand in there and car coming in
Coldshooter
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From what I have read very few dance companys practice their moves more than a pit crew. In thelast five years I have seen two pit accidents one where Kobiyashi hit a crew member and the other a premature release where a tire came loose and hit a cameraman. The announcers now talk like a 3 second pit stop is a complete failure.
JcMack
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Aren't knock off's supposed to be threaded threaded opposite to normal (forward) wheel rotation?
Marshwheeling
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Interesting juxtaposition, which raises some questions: The Indy 500 is not an F1 race. Car No. 3 at the 1950 indy 500 was a Deidt-Offenhauser driven by Bill Holland. There had been some F1 entries at Indy in previous years, but not in 1950.
Still, a pit stop is a pit stop, and the video fairly illustrates between pit stops then and now.
Still, a pit stop is a pit stop, and the video fairly illustrates between pit stops then and now.
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In the 1950 portion the guys refueled....no fuel in the modern portion only tires.. Fueling takes longer LOL
Bullzaye
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There's no doubt that there's a world of difference there. But...in the 1950's clip the announcer stated that only 4 crew members were performing the pit stop, and it looked as though one guy was cleaning the windscreen, and one guy was giving the driver a drink. In the 2013 clip there were, what...20 guys jumping onto that thing?
Tim
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They are left hand thread on one side of the car but not the other.
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Doesn't always go that smoothly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyLN5lOYk1c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyLN5lOYk1c
That looks more dangerous....
That looks more dangerous than an aircraft carrier flight deck. They don't stand in front of planes while they are being stopped. The fires are really scary. It's good they have good fire fighting equipment handy.
That looks more dangerous than an aircraft carrier flight deck. They don't stand in front of planes while they are being stopped. The fires are really scary. It's good they have good fire fighting equipment handy.
I thought a pit stop might include a chance to visit the men's room. Is this the genesis of "old folks" diapers?
I don't follow F1 or even Indy, I'm a NASCAR fan, but when I first got interested in racing, NASCAR teams, at least a few of lower budget teams were still using four way lug wrenches. A fast pit stop was 20-21 seconds, and that was about the best you'd see.
Today? 12-14 seconds, and some are even dipping below 12. That's for four tires and fuel. Two tire or "splash and go" stops are even faster of course. NASCAR still has five lugs to a wheel and the fuel is gravity feed, no pressurized systems, and a manually operated/carried jack. I want to say they're limited to five men over the wall, but wouldn't swear to that, it might be six. And today those guys can't go over the wall until the car is stopped. They used to stand on pit road and wait for the car.
That evolution came so gradually that it's only looking back at it, I can see it.
Today? 12-14 seconds, and some are even dipping below 12. That's for four tires and fuel. Two tire or "splash and go" stops are even faster of course. NASCAR still has five lugs to a wheel and the fuel is gravity feed, no pressurized systems, and a manually operated/carried jack. I want to say they're limited to five men over the wall, but wouldn't swear to that, it might be six. And today those guys can't go over the wall until the car is stopped. They used to stand on pit road and wait for the car.
That evolution came so gradually that it's only looking back at it, I can see it.
Those fueling accidents in the F1 pits and the Ferrari driver going down pit lane with 30 feet of fuel hose hanging from the car and gushing burning fuel is what promted the rule change requiring all cars to have enough fuel on board for the complete race; no fueling stops. It was too dangerous. Now all they do is change four tires......under 2 seconds. The 'delta time', the complete time lost from slowing to go into pit lane to exiting pit lane is about 20 seconds.
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model70hunter
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Do you know what an external catheter is?
Hmm. You can wear this in Wally world where the lines are slow and long?
Micky D's where the lines are slow and long?
The post office has extremely long and slow lines this time of the year.
Onemore, one of us bears watching.
Mcwsky09
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I believe in many cases the length of time it takes to refuel is what determines how much time everyone else has to get their job done. As the speed and efficiency of refueling has improved every other job has been forced to improve as well to keep up.
There have also been changes to rules in various motorsports which have at times not allowed in race refueling, likely to reduce the rick of fuel spillage and fires in pit lane.
"Pit stops" and F-1 "do not compute." 
They are a modern invention that has ruined what was once "motor racing" at its best. I know I may be fairly alone in that sentiment these days, but that's my opinion and I will stick with it. A pox on those persons who brought that abomination to Formula One. What a tragedy! 
They are a modern invention that has ruined what was once "motor racing" at its best. I know I may be fairly alone in that sentiment these days, but that's my opinion and I will stick with it. A pox on those persons who brought that abomination to Formula One. What a tragedy! 
