Found a Squib

shovelwrench

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Yep,
I found a squib at a PPC match yesterday, found it the hard way. Short cycled, cleared it, next trigger pull it locked up solid.

Heres what I found.
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Expensive squib, that was a 200$ Briley w/ The spherical bushing.
 
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Yep,
I found a squib at a PPC match yesterday, found it the hard way. Short cycled, cleared it, next trigger pull it locked up solid.

Heres what I found.
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Expensive squib, that was a 200$ Briley w/ The spherical bushing.
 
Sir, that hurts. Is the rest of the gun OK? More importantly, are *you* OK?

Semper Fi,

Ron H.
 
Wow, the crack appears to extend all the way to the chamber. I'm guessing this happened in one of the faster stages of fire. Handload or factory?
 
I'm OK, the slide spread a hair, nothin a squeeze in the vise and a little lapping won't fix.

Amazingly, with twelve guys on the line I could'nt even tell what happened.

It was a handload, yep, rapidfire 7yd line.
 
Glad to hear you're OK! It's much easier to replace a barrel than parts of your anatomy.

Would you mind telling us a little more about the offending handload?
 
Must of had a light drop. The one other, no powder, I pulled the trigger on, stuck in the leade. This one made it half way down, by the looks of the inside of the barrel.

When I cleared the gun I check the chamber, and looked down the barrel as far as I could see. Rapidfire in PPC does'nt lend much time to checking.

I was shooting 200gr Lazer cast, over 4gr bullseye.
 
Thanks for the information!
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That'll remind me to pay closer attention to my Lock Out die.
 
shovel,
Remind me what you load on. I think I used to know but can't seem to pull it up from the "old harddrive" !

Old timer's I guess!

p.s. Glad you are OK. Sorry about your gun though. I have had the same thing happen only in a revolver. It was in a PPC match too. I was loading on my Lee Classic Turret press back then. Things happen, no doubt about it.
 
Mr. shovelwrench,
Glad you were not hurt!

I've had a few (2-3) squibs since I began reloading. Fortunately, I was using a revolver for a couple and the other one (.45 ACP 1911)I was just plodding along...it was easy to catch the problems prior to sending one in behind the stuck bullet.

So how do you guys who shoot fast protect yourselves/others/your guns from another such incident? Have you thought about what you would change in the future? Just curious.

Bob
 
Sgt Preston here. I've had a few squibs from time to time. I don't shoot fast or in rapid fire competition. When something doesn't sound or feel just right, I drop the magazine, lock the slide back & insert my 3/16 dia x 10" brass rod into the front end of the barrel. If the brass rod doesn't appear in the breech end of the gun, it indicates I have a round stuck part way down the barrel. At that point I'll use the brass rod to drive the bullet back to the rear until it exits the barrel. It's only happened a few times, but I've learned to "stop, look & listen". Hope this helps. Sgt Preston USMC LLA
 
I also had two squib rounds while shooting timed and rapid fire in Bullseye matches. I was lucky enough to realize something was just different about the alibi and stopped shooting. Now that I'm shooting speed in the local steel matches,I can see how its almost impossible to stop pulling the trigger before its too late. My squib rounds were years ago, loading large quanties single stage on a RockChucker, with the Dillon 550...no more reloading mishaps. Knock on wood...You needed a new barrel anyway!
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I load on a Loadmaster.

I had a few problems with using the adjustable charge bar with the pro-auto disk. I was getting some powder bridging. I caught it, but that one must have slipped through. Seems the adjustable charge bar in the pro-auto disk, does'nt line up with the hopper hole quite like it should. The same charge bar in a auto disk does'nt bridge.

If there were alibi's in PPC, it never would have happened. And I'll be sure never to assume it was just a short cycle again.
 
Sorry about the barrel Shovel?
Glad your OK! Was it was a real bugger gettin' her apart? Those full auto speed strings close up leave precious little time for second thoughts!
 
She locked up about 1/4" out of battery. Had to smack the slide front with a block of wood. Then the bushing would'nt come out without pliers, it was a bugger to get out before I popped the barrel.
 
In my early handloading days, I put together a couple boxes of 250 gr. cast SWC loads for my Charter Arms Bulldog in .44 Special. It was a nice day, so I strapped my range bag on the back of my motorcycle and drove to the range. I got set up, and the very first shot 'squibbed.' It stuck between the forcing cone and the cylinder, tying the gun up. I had nothing in the range bag to reach down the bore to remove it.

I packed up and rode home. In the garage, I found some hardwood dowel that was close to bore size. I cut 12 inches of it and used that to knock the bullet back into the cartridge case. I sat the dowel and mallet down on the bench, took the offending cartridge inside and got my inertia bullet puller out. No powder!

I drove back to the range to continue shooting. The second round squibbed!

Of course, I had left the dowel on the bench in the garage at home. I packed up again and drove back there. Pushed the bullet back into the case and again and manned the bullet puller. No powder again!

This was serious. I began to weigh the remaining 98 cartridges and they were all within 2 grains of each other.

Not willing to risk another squib, I decided to pull the entire batch apart. The bullets I had used had quite a deep crimp groove and I had roll crimped them heavily. It took a good bit of smacking to force each bullet from the cases' grasp.

Every single remaining cartridge contained the proper powder charge!

What was the odds? 2 bad rounds out of 100 and I picked them out first and second!

That's six hours of my life I am never going to get back.
 
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