Frustration rears its ugly head

I presume that you have already tried some factory WC as a "control."

No I have not, but I know my load shoots, I have a Clark Custom PPC gun that he built for me in 2010, which I use at my clubs PPC matches.

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Sorry Bill, I just read your reply 6 months too late :-)

Yes I do shoot PPC in the Quebec province, at least 12 official matches a year. I shoot a model 10 and a 586 with Douglas barrels and Aristocrat ribs. For Distingued matches, I shoot a model 15. For 50 yards, I can't help you with your question about 231, as I use Titegroup. But I have friends using 231 with very good results. At that range, I would say practice, and to a lesser extent, bullet choice, and more important than powder choice.
BR,
Guy -
 
No, 3.2gr W231 is not too hot a load for HBWC bullets. That is the load I use with HBWC bullets and I charge 3.4gr W231 with DEWC bullets. (even though this is an old thread lol) Hodgdon recommends a starting charge of 3.5gr W231 under a 148gr HBWC.
 
If your groups are good like you say at 21 feet, and not so good at 25 yards try shooting a new group at 21 feet, but also have a target behind it at 25 yards. (In other words, one target directly behind the first to give you two holes with one shot) Focus as best you can with your mod 64. Once you get your normal tight group at 21 feet, examine what happened to the target at 25 yards. All you're looking for is the group results at 25 yards. Repeat this with your various loads shooting off a rest. Then try this with your model 10 & 14.

If the three guns all print your nice groups like you say at 21 feet, are your groups equally tight at 25 yard? If not, and your 64 is still giving you poor results, it is the 64 and not the loads. This would tell you a lot about your loads also. Try JB compound before you shoot the 64 in this test. Good luck.
 
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