General .22lr questions - gun compares.

[Coots]

Hey guys, I was sitting around last night and was wondering a few things about the .22lr out of my 15-22 vs. my Ruger 10/22 so forth and so on.

The state range I shoot at has a 'pistol' side and a rifle side and we generally stick on the 50 yard range. Only move over to the longer range when we break out the big brother (S&W M&P15).

Just some of my random thoughts while I was day dreaming were (since I don't have any quality range time with my 15-22 yet, just now got my scope mounted etc.) are how accurate compared to the 10/22 will the 15-22 be at the 50 yard range.

Have any of you done any shoot comparisons? If so, what size groups were you able to manage at the 50 yard mark? I know the 15-22 isn't meant to be a 'nail driver' but I'm just curious if any of you have done serious group shooting w/ it.

And in principal I know that the 10/22 is going to be more accurate than the 15-22.

I've also wondered a lot about what I've read as far as bolt action .22lr rifles, say a CZ bolt action or any brand really are more accurate than a semi-automatic rifle. Is that true with any type of rifle regardless of the round? Are bolt action guns always more accurate than a semi-auto?

Anyway, I know it's just random ramblings... but you know how the mind is when the wife is watching American Idol and you're just sitting there lol.

 

[BAM-BAM]

Take a trip over to "Rimfire Central" they have a good and active CZ forum. To me for "****s and giggles".......a

15-22 = AR15 and

a Scoped CZ 452s in .22lr (or .22mag.) American, FS or Trainer = a .22 Remington 700 sniper.

My 15-22 is a fun/ trainer out to 50-75yds; my CZs will shoot .25-.4 all day at 50yds and 1-1.5- 2 inch groups at 100yds......... if I do my part.

 

[Titegroups]

I can only shoot 4" groups or so with my Ruger by hand at 50yds, maybe because its a mark2 and I should try both hands.

 

[darksideemt]

I have seen some pretty impressive pics of groups with a 15-22 that I believe would come close to matching a 10/22. It's funny you ask about the semi vs bolt accuracy question as I just asked my dad that the other day because I was curious. He really wasn't sure so I still want to know, is it the shooter or the gun? Can someone have the same accuracy with either?

 

[pghrich]

It has been my experience [50 plus years of shooting] accuracy with the 22lr is in this order; a single shot bolt action rifle, then a magizine feed bolt action, then a lever and last a semiauto this has been the case for me, others opinions may vary, pghrich

 

[Titegroups]

Bolts are generally more accurate than semis.

 

[Grjfer]

Well I own both . A Ruger 10/22 and a Smith & Wesson 15-22. With open sights I am more accurate with the Smith.

 

[OKFC05]

If you want your 10/22 to shoot with the accuracy of a good $200 bolt rifle, Clark Custom can fix you right up---for about $800.
Ruger 10/22 Rifle Conversions by Clark Custom Guns, Inc.

For the same money, a quality bolt gun is inherently more accurate than a semi-auto every time.

 

[mud king]

I'm gonna agree with bolt actions being more accurate, for whatever reason. But I'm also gonna say, if you know what you're doing with both firearms, they can be the same. I can put two holes on top of each other with the 15-22, now if I grab a bolt, I can't shoot it if my life depended on it.

 

[Majorlk]

I currently have three .22 LR rifles, a Ruger 77/22, a Ruger 10/22 and my M&P15-22. I have listed them in order of accuracy.

The 77/22's action was overhauled by Jim Clark probably 20 years ago, but has the factory barrel. Accuracy is 1.5 MOA with a 4-16x40 power scope.

The 10/22 also has the factory barrel and a clark FCG. Accuracy is 2-2.5 MOA with a 4-16x40 power scope.

The 15-22 has a Jard 2.5 lb FCG and I get about 3 MOA with a 3-9x32 scope.

I'm satisfied, for my shooting, with the performance of all three.

Probably the most accurate .22 semi-auto is the Volquartsen, which is built on the 10/22 platform. Not cheap, by any means, but you get what you pay for, if top-notch accuracy is your ultimate goal.