Germans Give Ukraine the Latest-Greatest Missile Defense

[Beemerguy53]

...If we don't Quisling out, Putin cannot win over the long term.

Putin's biggest problem -- his one insurmountable obstacle -- is that no Russian conscript will ever fight as hard to conquer Ukraine as the Ukrainian people will fight to defend her.

Putin cannot win this war. The only question is how much blood he will spill before he concedes that fact...

 

[dockmurgw]

Not at all, from my respectful view. There's quite a difference between having an opposing opinion and deliberately trying to badger others on threads until the threads that you don't like are closed.

We will have to agree to disagree. As evidenced by this locked thread, the guilty party is not the one banned. Starts with nonsensical meme's, then the badgering starts in post 35...and doesnt end until the lock. Der Verminators crime was to have an opinion that he stuck with, an opinion that was unpopular here, and that was too much for some.

Anybody Remember the Neutron Bomb?

 

[biku324]

Victor Orban and the Daily News
Hungary! Orban, sometimes
referred to as Putin's Trojan
Horse within NATO, certainly
is a cause for derision.

Now, if talks are needed, maybe
it's time for Ukraine to tell Russia
to stop the missile attacks on
civilians. Or Ukraine will blow
apart the rest of Putin's prized
Crimea Bridge and seriously
cut his supplying of forces in
Crimea.

Daily News Hungary, indeed.

The G7 said yesterday talks with Russia are preconditioned by complete Russian withdrawal from illegally annexed territory, including Crimea. They learned (finally) the Chamberlain lesson.

 

[biku324]

We will have to agree to disagree. As evidenced by this locked thread, the guilty party is not the one banned. Starts with nonsensical meme's, then the badgering starts in post 35...and doesnt end until the lock. Der Verminators crime was to have an opinion that he stuck with, an opinion that was unpopular here, and that was too much for some.

Anybody Remember the Neutron Bomb?

Sure, we can disagree!

Objectively, look back at his badgering of others on half-a-dozen Ukraine threads, incuding the single best thread on the topic that had gone on respectfully with lots pf back and forth for hundreds of posts. Just my opinion, and I blocked him some time ago.

 

[biku324]

Everything we are sending them is not being replaced. We may need that stuff soon to fight China.

But what we want to use will be built with the new NDAA. Lots of stuff we're getting to Ukraine isn't stuff we would use in a fight with a modern adversary (like China). Obviously, the stuff works great for the intended target when designed, land war with the Soviets (and now Russia).

Once the Ukraine war is over Russia will not be able to rise again in my remaining lifetime, IMO. One down, one to go (or with which to reach accommodation).

 

[biku324]

And now Germany tells Russia to keep their gas.

Russian President Vladimir Putin on Wednesday offered to resume gas supplies to Europe through the intact part of the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline.

"The ball is in the EU's court. If they want to, then the taps can be turned on and that's it," he said in a speech at an energy forum in Moscow.

Germany, however,,said it would not take Russian gas via the Nord Stream 2 pipeline that has become a flashpoint in the Ukraine crisis.

Asked if Berlin would rule out the use of Nord Stream 2, German government spokeswoman Christiane Hoffmann said, "Yes."

"Independently of the possible sabotage of the two pipelines, we have seen that Russia is no longer a reliable energy supplier, and that even before the damage to Nord Stream 1 there was no longer any gas flowing,'' Hoffmann told reporters. Putin offers Europe gas through Nord Stream 2, Germany declines | News | DW | 12.10.2022

 

[Rudi]

But what we want to use will be built with the new NDAA. Lots of stuff we're getting to Ukraine isn't stuff we would use in a fight with a modern adversary (like China). Obviously, the stuff works great for the intended target when designed, land war with the Soviets (and now Russia).

Once the Ukraine war is over Russia will not be able to rise again in my remaining lifetime, IMO. One down, one to go (or with which to reach accommodation).

I bet some folks on Taiwan would jump at these weapons.

 

[biku324]

They're not in a war right now; Xi seems to be learning that takeovers might not be as much fun as Putin thought.

 

[UncleEd]

They're not in a war right now; Xi seems to be learning that takeovers might not be as much fun as Putin thought.

Yup, Xi might find out that his
military isn't what he thought it
is. Even if it is, what a bloody
mess.

And he'll have lost the opportunity
to sell to me through Amazon
more T-shirts. Could he survive
that?

 

[Rudi]

They're not in a war right now; Xi seems to be learning that takeovers might not be as much fun as Putin thought.

China is the world champ at playing the long game.

 

[biku324]

And they 'owe' Japan for 20-30 million war dead from 1937-1945.

 

[ladder13]

We will have to agree to disagree. As evidenced by this locked thread, the guilty party is not the one banned. Starts with nonsensical meme's, then the badgering starts in post 35...and doesnt end until the lock. Der Verminators crime was to have an opinion that he stuck with, an opinion that was unpopular here, and that was too much for some.

Anybody Remember the Neutron Bomb?

I'll agree.

 

[dockmurgw]

I'll agree.

Thank you. It's what I have always wished for. Now I can die a happy man.

 

[Jeromejr]

FYI: I saw an outstanding video by a German tank company commander. His diary's. Outstanding videos of Barbarossa.