Grip frame size - 460/500 vs. 29/629

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Does anyone know for sure if the grip frame on the 460/500 series is wider front-to-back than the 29/629 grip frame, or are they identical with only a different rubber grip?

Thanks for any info,

Myron
 
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Myron - I have a 329 Night Guard, N- frame and ordered the Smith & Wesson factory Hogue grips that are made for the X- frame 460 /500 frames. The Hogue grips fit my N frame / 329 perfectly. I believe they are identical but you could call the customer service department to be positivly sure.
 
Rangerpat -

Thanks -
I also have put the 500 grips on my Mountain Gun and they seemed to fit OK except there is a void space between the back of the grip frame and the interior of the grip, about 1/8" or so.
I'm wondering if it would be better to add a soft elastic filler strip in this void space or leave it empty. I tried some foam weatherstripping but it doesn't spring back to shape very fast.

Myron:confused:
 
Someone correct me if I am wrong, but it was my impression that the 460/500 had the smaller K/L frame size grips and of course the 29/629 are the N-frame grips and are larger.
 
diamondback68 -

I don't see how they could use the K/L grip frame because the grips from the 500 fit the 29/629 series with room left over.
What I was really getting at, I guess, does the frame on the 500 fill the grip completely, or is the void space there on the 500 also?

Myron
 
Yep, that's what I have on my 329 - what postban linked to... it has a filler that is internal and it helps to absorb recoil to the webbing between your thumb and forefinger. There is no exposed back strap of the grip frame.
 
The 460/500's have the exact same grip frame as the K/L frames do. The rubber "X" grip that everyone always refers others to, is designed to work on all of these frames. I haven't looked lately, but it used to be posted on Smith's website even.

When you go to wood, then you will need to use K/L stocks.:)
 
postban and Rangerpat -
Thanks so much for the info. I had purchased an orange X-frame (emergency survival kit) grip from a guy on the forum, and it has a distinct space between the frame and the grip. Since that, I also picked up a couple of new black X-frame grips from a fleabay dealer. The black grips fit perfectly with no gap. I haven't figured out exactly what the difference is between the orange and the black grips, but there is a distinct difference in the fit-up. Visual comparison looks the same until you put it on the gun.

Gun 4 Fun -
If the X-frame grip frame is the same as a K/L frame, why do the grips fit a round-butt N-frame? I don't own a K or L frame gun to look at, but I would assume (probably wrongly) that their grip frames are smaller than the N-frame or are they all the same? Not trying to argue the point, but I am curious.

Myron
 
Gun 4 Fun is correct. The X-frame grip frame is the same as the K/L-frame grip frame. The N-frame grip frame is larger.

The Hogue rubber X-frame grip fits the K/L and N-frame because the covered backstrap conceals the void.
 
mountaingun629 said:
postban and Rangerpat -
Thanks so much for the info. I had purchased an orange X-frame (emergency survival kit) grip from a guy on the forum, and it has a distinct space between the frame and the grip. Since that, I also picked up a couple of new black X-frame grips from a fleabay dealer. The black grips fit perfectly with no gap. I haven't figured out exactly what the difference is between the orange and the black grips, but there is a distinct difference in the fit-up. Visual comparison looks the same until you put it on the gun.

Gun 4 Fun -
If the X-frame grip frame is the same as a K/L frame, why do the grips fit a round-butt N-frame? I don't own a K or L frame gun to look at, but I would assume (probably wrongly) that their grip frames are smaller than the N-frame or are they all the same? Not trying to argue the point, but I am curious.

Myron
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The N round butt, is a lot closer in size to the K/L round butt, then the square butt versions are with each other. I don't know why, but them's the facts.:)
 
I guess I'm starting to get the picture.

ol timer -
If the void applies to X/K/L frames, then they were intentionally designed with the gap. Maybe the void space accounts for the cushioning effect.

Gun 4 Fun -
The round N-frame fills up the gap on the black version of the X-frame grips that I have, but not the orange one. The only thing I can figure out is that there is a part of the padding missing, but there is a gap at the top of the grip also, and the cushion is present and accounted for in that location. 'Tis a puzzlement!

Thanks for all the replies and info! I don't post much, but read a lot. Figure I can learn more by reading than by running my mouth (fingers). I never have quite understood the importance some folks put in post counts.
edit: sounded like I was slamming post counts - not so, just that a few make it sound like the all-important factor.

Myron
 
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As far as I know, the X-frame Hogue monogrips are still available only via S&W Accessories - for $37 + s/h. For what they do to my 4" & 6" 629s in .44 Magnum recoil, they are a bargain. Asked sometime back if they'd fit the K/L frame, I tried them on my 296:

IMG_0713.jpg


Yeah, it really tames that nasty AirLite Ti's bare backstrap 'slap', albeit taking it from the 'pocket protector' status it enjoyed with the OEM minimalist boots. It fits on my 2" 10 - and really looks crazy. No gaps, tight fit.

Stainz
 
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