Haitian Gangs

Several years ago I had neighbors who went to Haiti as part of church group bringing supplies after the earthquake devastated the island. They had thousands of clothing items which had been donated. They told me that most of the time they could not even give away the clean, well maintained but used clothing. The Haitians picked over the offerings and said that they only wanted new, and more fashionable items. Their entire economy is one of entitlement where they have been supported by charitable agencies for so long that they just fully expect that to continue forever.
 
The A10 is still in service and I live within 10 miles of Whiteman AFB and see them flying over several times a week. Also see B2 bombers going over every now and then. That is something to see when a B2 goes over your house at around 3000 ft

Better a B 2 than a B-52.
 
Haiti is, and has long been, a tragedy. It's a long and complicated story.

Here are some photos taken from a helicopter of the countryside about a year ago. I was surprised at the natural beauty of the country:







I hope someday, somehow, Haiti's people find peace and prosperity.

Haiti used to be covered with trees also.
 
The A-10 has been updated, and wil continue to do, what it does bette, than any other aircraft.
👍👍👍👍👍

It's entering its 50th years of service. Ground threats have increased tenfold since its development. Its time is extremely limited.
 
interesting post

The answer is very few gangs want to mess with people who belong to a vastly superior gang. It wouldn't take a lot of mental horse power to figure out messing with Marines would not be a good plan and I am sure the command came down from on high to leave them alone.

USMC the biggest baddest gang around:D

Legend has it that at one time after a number of Marines were robbed, arrested and otherwise abused in Tijuana, the Camp Pendleton commanding General unofficially declared dungaree liberty on TJ and after bus loads of Marines with his unspoken blessing arrived and partied down, the locals decided that messing with them was a very bad idea. I could tell you how I got robbed in TJ in 1970, but they made sure that I had enough left for a bus ticket back to base before leaving me. They also advised me where to carry the 2 switch blade I had already bought when I went back across the border. Actually except for the promise of the young women not coming to frustration it was an interesting experience. I thought briefly about bulling one of the switch blades, but a voice in my head told me that the 3 guys who were standing between me and the door were no new at the business and it would not end well. I am still sure it was a wise decision,.


Not enough $$ in the world to entice me to Mexico. Then or now. Nope.

No clue why they left me alone in Haiti. Either they thought I was crazy & to be avoided, or they thought I was the World's Second Most Dangerous Man (not true, of course). Or some of both? I'm both surprised & pleased it went as smoothly as it did, to be honest.

Back during the early days of WW2, the USMC had several bases in New Zealand. At some point in time, there had been an altercation of some sort between a solo Marine & multiple Kiwis. I don't recall if they were Maori men or Caucasian?

The Marine got messed up pretty bad. Within a day or so, word had reached the Commanding General in New Zealand about the incident. Within hours, he sent out a communique stating (ordering?) all available Marines were to have liberty in order to attend "the horse races". Those in the know said they were surprised because the General wasn't known to be a horse racing fan. ;)

So thousands of Marines poured into the local towns, looking for payback. Legend has it there was no trouble that night, or any following night until the Marines departed to Guadalcanal.

Author Leon Uris (who was a Marine in WW2) wrote of this in his first book, Battle Cry. This book helped me form my intent on joining the Marines, FWIW.

None of this changes that Haiti is a sewer though. :cool:
 
I’ve been to the DR. Pretty nice place. Saw a lot of the locals living in what appeared to me to me substandard circumstances, but even that wasn’t terrible. The airport wasn’t too far from the Haitian border, and I could occasionally hear gunfire. I wouldn’t set foot there for any reason.
 
We allowed over 700,000 Haitian refugees into our country since 2022. Very few contribute to our economy or prosperity and it cost taxpayers hundreds of millions....
I hadn't heard this...link, please?
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MPI - Haitian Migration
 

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Have been seeing on the news today that at least two American commercial passenger planes landing in Haiti have be fired on from the ground, and that the FAA has cancelled all US airline flights into Haiti for at least 30 days. Seems that Haitian gangs have essentially taken over the country. I saw some scenes of what appear to be Haitian troops or police, I couldn’t tell which, on the ground, appears they were armed with what looks like Mini-14s.

Not that I ever planned vacationing in Haiti, I sure wouldn’t go anywhere close to the place now. Does anyone know the story about the Haitian gangs? Who are they and what do they want?
True, and because of that we now have a plan in place when returning all "immigrants" they refuse, they will have parachutes strapped on their arses and will be dropped off like our military using a static line to ensure their safe decent.
 
Yesterday's news said a Southwest plane landing at Dallas Love Field was struck by gunfire near the flight deck.
Maybe some of the 705,000 listed above settled in Dallas.
 
I’ve been to the DR. Pretty nice place. Saw a lot of the locals living in what appeared to me to me substandard circumstances, but even that wasn’t terrible. The airport wasn’t too far from the Haitian border, and I could occasionally hear gunfire. I wouldn’t set foot there for any reason.

You'll always find the occasionally quirky SWAT types (usually with significant financial issues like an ugly divorce) willing to contract there. It's one of only five or six places in the world you can make $700 daily to train police who desperately need help.
 
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I hadn't heard this...link, please?

The actual numbers by country are here: Yearbook 2023 | OHSS - Office of Homeland Security Statistics

For 2023, there were 13,450 Legal Permanent Residents, 30 Haitian refugees, 100 asylees. See tables 3, 14, and 17.

There are 731,000 Haitian-born people in the U.S. who have arrived since the mid-20th century.

The nearly 731,000 Haitian immigrants residing in the United States in 2022, the most recent year for which data are available from the U.S. Census Bureau’s American Community Survey (ACS), made up 2 percent of all 46.2 million U.S. immigrants and 16 percent of the 4.6 million Caribbean immigrants. Compared to all immigrants, Haitians are more likely to be naturalized U.S. citizens, have obtained legal permanent residence (also known as getting a green card) through family-based categories, and work in service occupations. They are also less likely to have a college degree and tend to report lower household incomes.
Just a moment...
 
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The Wart Hog is waiting and the crews are willing to cover any commercial airliner, where ever.

Years back used to love seeing them flying over my house on the Sacandaga Reservoir. They followed the river and it was a great free air show.

Unfornituely 2 of them crashed, the pilots died and it never was the same.


Plane does have a lot of detractors, shame as it still does a very good job.
 
Not enough $$ in the world to entice me to Mexico. Then or now. Nope.

No clue why they left me alone in Haiti. Either they thought I was crazy & to be avoided, or they thought I was the World's Second Most Dangerous Man (not true, of course). Or some of both? I'm both surprised & pleased it went as smoothly as it did, to be honest.

Back during the early days of WW2, the USMC had several bases in New Zealand. At some point in time, there had been an altercation of some sort between a solo Marine & multiple Kiwis. I don't recall if they were Maori men or Caucasian?

The Marine got messed up pretty bad. Within a day or so, word had reached the Commanding General in New Zealand about the incident. Within hours, he sent out a communique stating (ordering?) all available Marines were to have liberty in order to attend "the horse races". Those in the know said they were surprised because the General wasn't known to be a horse racing fan. ;)

So thousands of Marines poured into the local towns, looking for payback. Legend has it there was no trouble that night, or any following night until the Marines departed to Guadalcanal.

Author Leon Uris (who was a Marine in WW2) wrote of this in his first book, Battle Cry. This book helped me form my intent on joining the Marines, FWIW.

None of this changes that Haiti is a sewer though. :cool:

Sadly, I believe Commanding Generals with that kind of guts and wisdom are a lot harder to find these days.
 
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